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-----Original Message-----
From: Necdet Uzun [mailto:nuzun@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 10:29 AM
To: 802.17; jhawkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; bob.sultan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [RPRWG] P802.17 TD1.0 RESPONSE = APPROVE WITH COMMENT / P802.17 TD1.0 RESPONSE = DISAPPROVE

TA Document IEEE802.17-11Jul2001/:7, July 11, 2000
Working Group Ballot August, 2001
(Terms and Definitions for Resilient Packet Ring)

Your Name:______Necdet Uzun_____________________
_x__    APPROVE WITHOUT COMMENT  ( rest of the subclauses which are not mentioned below)
___    APPROVE WITH COMMENTS
_x__    DO NOT APPROVE (see below)
___    ABSTAIN,   List Reason i.e. Lack of Expertise, Lack of Time:
____________________________
------ END OF BALLOT SECTION -------
IF YOU ARE VOTING "APPROVE WITHOUT COMMENT" or ABSTAINING, YOUR WORK
IS DONE AT THIS POINT. COMMENT INFORMATION: COMMENTS ARE APPROPRIATE IN THE INSTANCE OF AN "APPROVE WITH COMMENT"
VOTE AND REQUIRED IN THE INSTANCE OF A "DO NOT APPROVE" VOTE.
"DO NOT APPROVE" VOTES MUST BE BACKED UP BY COMMENTS CLASSIFIED AS
"TECHNICAL REQUIRED" AND THESE MUST PROVIDE SUFFICIENT REMEDY AS
TO CHANGE THE VOTE TO AN "APPROVE" IF ADOPTED.  ALL COMMENTS SHOULD
INCLUDE CHANGES REQUIRED TO ELIMINATE THE STATED CONCERN. PLEASE USE THE FORM BELOW FOR ALL COMMENTS. MULTIPLE COMMENTS CAN BE
SUBMITTED IN ONE ASCII TEXT FILE OR E-MAIL. SIMPLY ADD YOUR PERSONAL DATA
AND THEN COPY THE LINES FOLLOWING        "------ COMMENT SECTION -------"
AND REPEAT AS OFTEN AS REQUIRED WITHIN THE FILE OR EMAIL. PLEASE USE THE
FORMAT BELOW, MAKING SURE THAT THE COMMENTS ARE IN ASCII FORM AND THAT
EACH COMMENT INCLUDES:
CommenterName: Necdet Uzun
CommenterEmail: nuzun@xxxxxxxxx
CommenterPhone: 408-853-0461
CommenterCellPhone:
CommenterCompany: Cisco Systems
Acceptable comment types:
E  = Editorial
T  = Technical
TR = Technical Required

------ COMMENT SECTION -------
Comments on P802.17/TD1.0 CommenterName: Necdet Uzun
CommenterEmail: nuzun@xxxxxxxxx
CommenterPhone: 408-853-0461
CommenterCellPhone:
CommenterCompany: Cisco Systems
Clause: 1
Subclause: 4
Page: 1
Line: 14
CommentType (E, T, TR):  TR, DO NOT APPROVE
Comment #: 1
Comment: backpressure can be sent by any means, it does not have to be sent by using a frame.
CommentEnd:
SuggestedRemedy: Change "control frame" to "control signal"
RemedyEnd:
 
 

CommenterName: Necdet Uzun
CommenterEmail: nuzun@xxxxxxxxx
CommenterPhone: 408-853-0461
CommenterCellPhone:
CommenterCompany: Cisco Systems
Clause: 1
Subclause: 20
Page: 2
Line: 43
CommentType (E, T, TR):  TR, DO NOT APPROVE
Comment #: 1
Comment: committed burst size needs to be measured in a shorter time duration than CIR.
CommentEnd:
SuggestedRemedy:Change "Tc" to "Tb", where Tb is the interval of measuring the burst size. Note that Tb << Tc.
RemedyEnd:
 

CommenterName: Necdet Uzun
CommenterEmail: nuzun@xxxxxxxxx
CommenterPhone: 408-853-0461
CommenterCellPhone:
CommenterCompany: Cisco Systems
Clause: 1
Subclause: 31
Page: 3
Line: 71
CommentType (E, T, TR):  TR, DO NOT APPROVE
Comment #: 1
Comment: Stripped means that frame is removed from the ring, hence you can not copy and strip.
CommentEnd:
SuggestedRemedy: Change "stripped" to "received".
RemedyEnd:

CommenterName: Necdet Uzun
CommenterEmail: nuzun@xxxxxxxxx
CommenterPhone: 408-853-0461
CommenterCellPhone:
CommenterCompany: Cisco Systems
Clause: 1
Subclause: 39
Page: 3
Line: 89
CommentType (E, T, TR):  TR, DO NOT APPROVE
Comment #: 1
Comment: Definition is confusing.
CommentEnd:
SuggestedRemedy: Rewrite. As simple as " Reception of a frame more than once by the destination." would be good enough.
RemedyEnd:

CommenterName: Necdet Uzun
CommenterEmail: nuzun@xxxxxxxxx
CommenterPhone: 408-853-0461
CommenterCellPhone:
CommenterCompany: Cisco Systems
Clause: 1
Subclause: 41
Page: 4
Line: 95
CommentType (E, T, TR):  TR, DO NOT APPROVE
Comment #: 1
Comment: out-of-sequence frames are only relevant if they are from the same priority.
CommentEnd:
SuggestedRemedy:Modify the start of the sentence as "A same priority frame (Ft) ..."
RemedyEnd:
Comment #: 2
Comment: "after frame Ft+1, ..." is not sufficient enough for ordered delivery.
CommentEnd:
SuggestedRemedy: Modify the whole thing as "A same priority frame (Ft) arriving at a destination station after Ft+1 or before Ft-1 in a sequence of frames F0, F1, F2, ...., Fn sent from a source station.
RemedyEnd:

CommenterName: Necdet Uzun
CommenterEmail: nuzun@xxxxxxxxx
CommenterPhone: 408-853-0461
CommenterCellPhone:
CommenterCompany: Cisco Systems
Clause: 1
Subclause: 56
Page: 5
Line: 123
CommentType (E, T, TR):  TR, DO NOT APPROVE
Comment #: 1
Comment: "receiving station" may not be congested but an intermediate station may be.
CommentEnd:
SuggestedRemedy: Replace "receiving station" in line 125 with "congested station"
RemedyEnd:

CommenterName: Necdet Uzun
CommenterEmail: nuzun@xxxxxxxxx
CommenterPhone: 408-853-0461
CommenterCellPhone:
CommenterCompany: Cisco Systems
Clause: 1
Subclause: 64
Page: 5
Line: 139
CommentType (E, T, TR):  TR, DO NOT APPROVE
Comment #: 1
Comment: There is no need to define the term "global spatial reuse". The term "spatial reuse" is enough.
CommentEnd:
SuggestedRemedy: delete this subclause.
RemedyEnd:

CommenterName: Necdet Uzun
CommenterEmail: nuzun@xxxxxxxxx
CommenterPhone: 408-853-0461
CommenterCellPhone:
CommenterCompany: Cisco Systems
Clause: 1
Subclause: all others
Page:
Line:
CommentType (E, T, TR):  APPROVE
Comment #:
Comment:
CommentEnd:
RemedyEnd: