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Re: [802.19] Conference Call - 802.11ax/802.15.4 Coexistence



Exactly. The fate of the technology is not in the hands of the FCC. It is entirely up to 802.19.

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 11:00 AM Benjamin A. Rolfe <ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Rich and all,

The  purpose of 802 establishing the requirement to perform coexistence analysis and promote positive coexistence among 802 wireless services.  This derives form the fact that, under rules and regulations, poor coexistence properties may be legal, but are harmful to the overall usefulness and value of 802 wireless standards. In 802 we created a responsibility to go beyond what is legal. The argument that "it is not our problem" as stated in FCC part 15 is exactly opposite the purpose of doing coexistence analysis and documenting accurately the impacts in a coexistence analysis document.

The reality is that perception of the new service being disruptive will impede adoption of that service.  Our coexistence process is intended to provide useful, accurate information on the coexistence impacts so that informed decisions can be made as to when and where to use which standards. A thorough and accurate understanding of the coexistence properties is beneficial to developers and users of both 802.11 and 802.15 standards, and ultimately essential to maintain the credibility and effectiveness of 802.

FWIW

Ben



On 6/14/2018 8:40 AM, Richard Kennedy wrote:
Don't forget:

47CFR Part 15

15.5   General conditions of operation.

(b) Operation of an intentional, unintentional, or incidental radiator is subject to the conditions that no harmful interference is caused and that interference must be accepted that may be caused by the operation of an authorized radio station, by another intentional or unintentional radiator, by industrial, scientific and medical (ISM) equipment, or by an incidental radiator.

Rich Kennedy
UnlicensedSpectrumAdvocates

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 10:31 AM Steve Shellhammer <sshellha@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Billy,

 

                If time permits we can cover your presentation.

 

Regards,

Steve

 

From: Billy Verso <billy.verso@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 4:35 AM
To: Steve Shellhammer <sshellha@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: STDS-802-19@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Tim Harrington <Timothy.Harrington@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [802.19] Conference Call - 802.11ax/802.15.4 Coexistence

 

Hi Steve,

Submission 19-18-0017, which I presented to the 802.19 WG in March, is also relevant to this matter.  If you will allow time on the agenda, I would be happy to go through it again for anyone on the call who missed its presentation in March.

Best regards,
Billy.

 

On 13 June 2018 at 20:23, Steve Shellhammer <sshellha@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

All,

 

                Here is the agenda for the 11ax/15.4 coexistence call on Thursday June 14 at 1 PM EDT (10 AM Pacific Time).  We have one presentation on the agenda.  If anyone else has a presentation they would like to make, please notify me.

 

Agenda

·         Attendance

·         Review PatCom Slides (On your own)

o    https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/slideset.pdf

·         Coexistence Presentation (Tim Harrington)

·         Other Presentations

 

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