Perhaps "entirely" may be an overstatement, however, we have an opportunity to make a positive contribution and IMO that is not something to waste.
If the value of this opportunity is not clear to you, or you do not see it as such, then just fall back to rules: the 802 rules require a complete and technically accurate coexistence analysis. It is a requirement. I happen to be of the view it is a good requirement and can benefit people promoting the standard as a tool to allow users to assess impact potential application in a rational, factual manner. This is good for those who are promoting the technology - fear, uncertainty and doubt can suppress acceptance.
I'm also an optimist
when it comes to innovation in technology. I'm quite certain
that all there is to know is not known and that there are people
with imagination and knowledge who can solve nearly any problem.
A good understanding of the problem to be solved is a good place
to begin. I am not yet convinced there is nothing we can do as a
collection of intelligent and imaginative minds in 802 to
proactively address potential coexistence problems to the benefit
of all.
Regards,
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Exactly. The fate of the technology is not in the hands of the FCC. It is entirely up to 802.19.
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 11:00 AM Benjamin A. Rolfe <ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Rich and all,
The purpose of 802 establishing the requirement to perform coexistence analysis and promote positive coexistence among 802 wireless services. This derives form the fact that, under rules and regulations, poor coexistence properties may be legal, but are harmful to the overall usefulness and value of 802 wireless standards. In 802 we created a responsibility to go beyond what is legal. The argument that "it is not our problem" as stated in FCC part 15 is exactly opposite the purpose of doing coexistence analysis and documenting accurately the impacts in a coexistence analysis document.
The reality is that perception of the new service being disruptive will impede adoption of that service. Our coexistence process is intended to provide useful, accurate information on the coexistence impacts so that informed decisions can be made as to when and where to use which standards. A thorough and accurate understanding of the coexistence properties is beneficial to developers and users of both 802.11 and 802.15 standards, and ultimately essential to maintain the credibility and effectiveness of 802.
FWIW
Ben
On 6/14/2018 8:40 AM, Richard Kennedy wrote:
Don't forget:
47CFR Part 15Rich Kennedy
15.5 General conditions of operation.
(b) Operation of an intentional, unintentional, or incidental radiator is subject to the conditions that no harmful interference is caused and that interference must be accepted that may be caused by the operation of an authorized radio station, by another intentional or unintentional radiator, by industrial, scientific and medical (ISM) equipment, or by an incidental radiator.
UnlicensedSpectrumAdvocates
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 10:31 AM Steve Shellhammer <sshellha@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Billy,
If time permits we can cover your presentation.
Regards,
Steve
From: Billy Verso <billy.verso@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 4:35 AM
To: Steve Shellhammer <sshellha@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: STDS-802-19@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Tim Harrington <Timothy.Harrington@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [802.19] Conference Call - 802.11ax/802.15.4 Coexistence
Hi Steve,
Submission 19-18-0017, which I presented to the 802.19 WG in March, is also relevant to this matter. If you will allow time on the agenda, I would be happy to go through it again for anyone on the call who missed its presentation in March.
Best regards,
Billy.
On 13 June 2018 at 20:23, Steve Shellhammer <sshellha@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
All,
Here is the agenda for the 11ax/15.4 coexistence call on Thursday June 14 at 1 PM EDT (10 AM Pacific Time). We have one presentation on the agenda. If anyone else has a presentation they would like to make, please notify me.
Agenda
· Attendance
· Review PatCom Slides (On your own)
o https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/slideset.pdf
· Coexistence Presentation (Tim Harrington)
· Other Presentations
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