AW: [802.21] Discussion on Information Service
Hi Subir,
can we cover all the topics in the telcon?
From other telcons I understood that IETF discussion
is mainly concentrating on L3 protocols. My
intention was to be irrespective of layers.
regards,
Kalyan
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Subir Das [mailto:subir@research.telcordia.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. August 2005 17:27
An: Koora Kalyan Com Bocholt
Cc: STDS-802-21@listserv.ieee.org
Betreff: Re: [802.21] Discussion on Information Service
Kalyan,
I agree with you that we need to start the discussion on Information
Service.
As Ajay announced earlier (copied below), we will have the following
telecon
next week to discuss the higher layer requirements for IETF, in particular
Information Service.
Regards,
-Subir
All,
During the last teleconf I realized that there was this conflict (Vivek
also pointed it out). I also notice that
nothing is scheduled for August 23, 2005. I propose that we make the
following change:
Higher layer Requirements for IETF
August 23, 2005; 9-11am EST
Let me know if any of you has any comments/concerns. Else I will
announce this change on the reflector tomorrow.
Regards,
-ajay
Koora Kalyan Com Bocholt wrote:
>Hello All,
>
>after taking part in couple of telcons, I feel that there is a
>strong need to raise a disucussion on the .21 Information Service.
>In particular I feel that there is an urgent need to fix the basic
>information set at this point before proceeding to different
>standardisation bodies.
>
>As a starting point, I am just putting couple of basic points
>together to have a common understanding in discussion.
>I would be happy to see your comments/opinions/ideas/suggestions
>to reach a common consensus on this matter.
>
>with best regards,
>Kalyan Koora
>
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>I. What is 802.21 MIH scope?
>II. Handover of what?
>III. Present Handover mechanisms
>IV. How to continue?
>
>I. What is 802.21 MIH scope?
>
> - provide generic link layer intelligence and other network
> related info to upper layers to optimize handovers between
> heterogeneous media
>
> - enhance and/or support handovers between heterogeneous
> media
>
> - maximize service continuity
>
>II. Handover of what?
>
> - A session / an application running over a media to other media
>
> - session/service continuity is desired
>
> If we are speaking about a "session", then we mean
> "running application".
>
> If we are speaking about "handover of a running session" from
> one to other media, it is a "must" that the minimum requirements
> of the session are available at the other media.
>
>III. Present Handover mechanisms
> Present well known handover mechanisms (like MIP):
> - select one media for all sessions
> - do not do load-balancing
> - neither care about application needs nor take care of
> user or network preferences dynamically
>
> The evolving mechanisms are aiming to enable this.
> To assist these intelligent handover mechanis (what 802.21 is aiming
> at), it is important to have following information as early as
> possible:
>
> 1. what applications are running on the terminal or what
> sessions are build up
> 2. If a new session/application is started, what are its needs 3.
> what medias are present in the terminal and what are their
> capabilities
> 4. what are the reachable networks in the vicinity and
> what are their capabilities.
> 5. what application support is provided by the networks
> 6. Last but most, what are the user and operator preferences.
>
> If these points are agreed, then comes the question:
> Taking the above mentioned points into consideration, if 802.21
> likes to enhance the handover mechanisms, what is the
> information envisaged by the .21?
>
>IV. How to continue:
>
> To refine/enhance/modify I feel, there is an urgent need to
> take a look at the IS, in particular the basic set.
>
> What is needed?
>
> - shall we define a unique basic set for all standards, to be
> media independent?
>
> - shall we take the existing basic set, think of scenarios
> where this is needed and put them as essential and remove
> the things which are not needed?
>
> - shall we define completely new set for each and every standard
> just like independent SAPs?
>
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