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Re: [802.3_100GNGOPTX] Agenda & Schedule Updated

Hi Chris,

As Brad said, the agenda is subject to review & approval by the Task Force.
The rules I chose to prioritize were the most fair I could come up with as it gave proponents the opportunity to build their own supporter's list, and also it created an incentive to build consensus.
We are going to be pretty challenged for time as our room is going to be shut down at 7p. Once I land in Geneva, I will start working on additional space for continuing our meetings later than 7p.
Brad, I believe your assertion regarding whether or not our project has met its objectives without an additional SMF PMD is based on an opinion. The Study Group clearly stated in our PAR/5C documents that LR4 with a CAUI-4 electrical interface would lower the cost, power and size and thereby potentially meet our objective. The language clearly stated that an additional PMD would only come if it provided sufficient differential in cost/power/density to be justified by the Task Force. So far, the Task Force has not deemed any alternative to meet the necessary criteria. 

Perhaps this meeting?
To be successful in adopting an SMF baseline proposal, those who are promoting new PMD approaches should be working to build consensus, and alleviate concerns of those who are not taking a position at this time. 

All,
We are going to be very tight for time, so figuring out how to proceed in an orderly and efficient manner is crucial. At this time, we have an agenda and schedule. We can consider re-prioritization of the presentations, Chris' mini-presentation, Mark's Q&A only, or some other means but if we spend more than about 15 minutes discussing it, we may be losing the ability to even complete what is on the agenda.
I kind of like Mark's Q&A idea as it puts the load on us to read/review/develop questions outside the normal course of the meeting. Seems like a potentially efficient approach.
Please, think about it, talk to others about it, and feel free to contact me directly as well. 

Regards,

Dan Dove (in DC, getting ready to get back in the air)

On 7/13/13 1:12 PM, Mark Nowell (mnowell) wrote:

Chris,

Agree with your concerns about the compressed time for this part of the
meeting and realize why Dan has to do it as he has done, and said he would.

I'd feel the limited time would be put to better use with 7 mins of
discussion on each presentation rather then the presenting of it.  We can
all review the material beforehandŠ

Mark

On 7/13/13 10:47 AM, "Chris Cole" <chris.cole@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Dear Task Force Participants,

The limited time Thursday AM means that we will not get to hear most of
the presentations in support of expected SMF PMD motions in the last
hour of the meeting. These presentations reflect considerable work on
the part of their authors to provide information to the Task Force
Participants for basing their votes.

I would like to offer for Task Force consideration an alternate
organization of the Thursday AM session.

Each presentation would be allocated 7 minutes. To minimize set-up time,
the chair would briefly show the title page and then display the
summary/concluding slide to which the author would then speak for a few
minutes and take clarifying questions. This requires the TF Participants
to read through the presentations ahead of time. The next presenter
would walk up to the podium and get ready to speak to his presentation
while the current speaker was finishing answering questions. The chair
would rigidly enforce the 7 minute time allocation. The presenter would
have the option to elect not to have any Q&A time, but rather have the
chair flash through their presentation while they briefly highlight key
points on their slides. Again, the 7minute time allocation would be
rigidly enforced.

If we keep the Agenda and Housekeeping motions to 20mins, and the Break
to 10mins, that gives us 90mins in the 9AM to 11AM slot before motions

>from 11AM to 12N. With 7 minute slots, this lets us hear all 12

presentations in support of various SMF PMD proposals. These numbers can
be tweaked.

Thank you

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Dove [mailto:ddove@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 11:54 AM
To: STDS-802-3-100GNGOPTX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [802.3_100GNGOPTX] Agenda & Schedule Updated

Dear Task Force Participants,

An update to the Agenda and Schedule has been uploaded at <
http://www.ieee802.org/3/bm/public/jul13/dove_01a_0713_optx.pdf > to
include the results of prioritization and explanation of scheduling for
SMF baseline presentations.

Like many of you, I will soon be traveling and unavailable so if you
have any questions or concerns, please notify me prior to 5pm this
evening PDT.

Best Regards,

Dan Dove
Chair, IEEE P802.3bm