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The opening 802.3 meeting will begin at 1:00 pm on November 15 , and the closing 802.3 meeting will be 1:00 pm November 18. These meetings will follow our typical agenda. (For typical ordering of topics, please see the minutes from previous meetings. A detailed agenda will be approved at the meeting.) As usual, task force, study group, standing committee and any appropriate ad hoc meetings will be scheduled between the opening and closing 802.3 meetings. It will be a busy week, and I look forward to seeing you in San Antonio . Additional meeting information follows and contact information for task force and study group chairs can be found on our web site.
Bob Grow
Chair, IEEE 802.3 Working Group 
Intel, EC2-101
13290 Evening Creek 
Drive
San Diego, CA 
92128 
phone: 858-391-4622
mobile: 858-705-1829
fax: 858-391-4657
email: 
bob.grow@ieee.org 
TASK FORCE / STUDY GROUP MEETINGS
802.3an Task 
Force – 10GBASE-T 
(Tue-Thu)
The 10GBASE-T task force will be 
focusing on areas where the P802.3an draft is technically incomplete, and other 
refinements. As technical issues are adopted by the group, specifications are 
being added to the draft. Those wishing to present during the task force 
meetings should contact the Chair, Mr. Brad Booth. Availability of new drafts is 
announced on the task force reflector. Pre-posted November presentation 
availability will also be announced on the reflector shortly before the meeting. 
802.3ap Task Force – Backplane Ethernet (Tue-Thu)
The P802.3ap task force began review of its draft in September, developed 
consensus on some features and in November will be focusing on developing 
consensus on other technical features where the P802.3ap draft incomplete. Those 
wishing to present during the task force meetings should contact the Chair, Mr. 
Adam Healey. New drafts are announced on the task force reflector as is the 
availability of pre-posted November presentations (shortly before the 
meeting).
802.3aq Task Force – 10GBASE-LRM (Tue-Thu)
The 
P802.3aq task force is also now refining its draft. P802.3aq/D0.2 draft 
availability was announced on the task force reflector and pre-posted 
presentations will be announced shortly before the meeting. Task Force work will 
continue on completing and refining the draft. Those wishing to present during 
the task force meetings should contact the Chair, Mr. David Cunningham. 
802.3REVam Task Force – Maintenance 8 and revision of IEEE Std 
802.3-2002 (Tue)
The working group ballot on 
P802.3REVam passed, and comments were resolved at the September interim meeting. 
A working group recirculation ballot will be conducted before the November 
meeting, and the maintenance meeting in November will be resolving comments from 
that recirculation ballot. The IEEE has merged IEEE Std 802.3ah into the 
consolidated document, and the recirculation ballot will allow review of that 
merge operation.
The Sponsor ballot on this project will also be a beta test of the myBallot system that will be used on all IEEE-SA projects in 2005. The invitation for that ballot has been sent to the 802.3 invitation pool.
Rules, Maintenance, Interpretations (tentative, 
Tues)
The rules meeting will cover 
requested rules changes. Interpretation requests have been received that will 
need to be processed during the week. Any maintenance requests will also be 
considered. The procedures for introducing items for these activities are 
outlined on our web site.
Congestion Management Study Group (proposed 
802.3ar, tentative Tue-Thu)
The September 
CMSG meeting concluded that the desired approaches for congestion management 
protocols belong in 802.1, and an overture for moving this work to 802.1 was 
favorably received at the October 802.1 meeting. Therefore, the November meeting 
time will be divided between the 802.1 issues and the supporting 802.3 work that 
is proposed for November approval as P802.3ar. Logistics details for the 
division are yet to be completed. Those wishing to present during the meeting 
should contact Mr. Ben Brown.
Frame Extensions Study Group (proposed 802.3as, 
Tue)
The P802.3as Frame Format 
Enhancements PAR will be considered in November. The study group will begin work 
on a draft and will continue to evaluate the limits on and implications of an 
increased maximum frame size. Implementers and users aware of legacy equipment 
limits less than 2048 bytes are encouraged to let the group know of those limits 
(e.g., clock disparity FIFO buffer sizes, fixed-size frame buffers, 
etc.)
Residential Ethernet Study Group 
(Wed-Thu)
The Residential Ethernet Study 
Group met for the first time in September, and began work on objectives for a 
possible standards project. The November meeting will continue to evaluate the 
market justification and advisability of initiating a standards development 
project to specify Ethernet operation for certain residential applications 
(e.g., consumer electronics).
PROJECT AUTHORIZATION REQUESTS
802.3 
PARs
P802.3ar, Congestion Management, will be considered at the November 
meeting. The PAR, criteria and background information can be found on the CMSG 
web pages:
www.ieee802.org/3/cm_study/index.html 
P802.3as, Frame Format Extensions, will 
be considered at the November meeting. The PAR, criteria and background 
information can be found on the FESG web pages:
www.ieee802.org/3/frame_study/index.html 
PARs from other IEEE 802 
groups
P802.1ah draft PAR and 
5C:
http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2004/802-1ah-draft-par-for-30-day-rule.htm
http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2004/802-1ah-5c.pdf 
P802.1ai draft PAR and 5C:
http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2004/802-1ai-draft-par-for-30-day-rule.htm
http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2004/802-1ai-5c.pdf 
P802.1aj draft PAR and 5C:
http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2004/802-1aj-draft-par-for-30-day-rule.htm
http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2004/802-1-aj-5c.pdf 
P802.11u: Wireless InterWorking with External 
Networks (amendment to 802.11)
http://www.ieee802.org/secmail/msg05775.html 
P802.11v: Wireless Network 
Management (amendment to 802.11)
http://www.ieee802.org/secmail/msg05775.html 
P802.16h, Improved 
Coexistence Mechanisms for License-Exempt Operation
http://ieee802.org/16/docs/04/80216-04_56r1.pdf
P802.17b, Spatially Aware Sublayer
http://www.ieee802.org/secmail/msg05767.html 
CALL FOR INTEREST
PoE Plus 
(tentative Tuesday evening)
Mike McCormack 
, 3Com (mike_s_mccormack@3com.com) 
DTE Power via the MDI (802.3 Clause 
33), aka Power over Ethernet, aka PoE, has been a successful enhancement to the 
802.3 standard that has opened new application spaces and eased the deployment 
of network equipment. Since the publication of 802.3af in June 2003, PoE has 
become the preferred power source for numerous network devices, most notably 
WLAN access points, IP telephones, and networked security cameras. PoE has 
played a significant role in extending Ethernet's reach beyond traditional 
applications. As with any successful technology, the market is changing rapidly 
and some of the market needs are not easily addressed by the present standard. 
Consequently, companies are releasing nonstandard, non-interoperable devices to 
address market needs. This has the unfortunate effect of diluting and even 
endangering the standard. Also, other standards organizations are working on 
overlapping power standards that have had the unintended effect of confusing the 
market. This situation is not likely to improve without attention from the 802.3 
Working Group.