Re: [8023-10GEPON] FEC call details

[Frank Chang <ychang@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Glen;

Thanks for arranging the bridge, and also thanks Ryan for quick summary. Here the new one  incls extra slides and edits after considering last call. The purpose is to keep this subject generic and not come to concrete conclusion at this stage. Pls review, lets talk about it. 

Frank C.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Glen Kramer [mailto:glen.kramer@teknovus.com]
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 9:34 PM
To: STDS-802-3-10GEPON@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: [8023-10GEPON] FEC call details

All,

The conference call for FEC is planned for Monday, September 11th, 9:30 AM
US Pacific time. The following is the bridge number, courtesy of the
Ethernet Alliance:

Dial in Number
1-866-228-9900

International Number
1-719-359-4032

Participant Passcode 383731

The bridge is reserved for 1.5 hrs. I hope this would be enough.

Glen

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glen Kramer [mailto:glen.kramer@TEKNOVUS.COM]
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 12:50 PM
> To: STDS-802-3-10GEPON@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: Re: [8023-10GEPON] Presentation on FEC for 10G
> 
> Frank,
> 
> This is rather a short notice. I will see if I can reach the AE today. If
> not, I will find an alternative conference call facility and will post the
> details later tonight.
> 
> Glen
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Frank Chang [mailto:ychang@VITESSE.COM]
> > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 11:25 AM
> > To: STDS-802-3-10GEPON@listserv.ieee.org
> > Subject: Re: [8023-10GEPON] Presentation on FEC for 10G
> >
> > Glen;
> >
> > Right now the conf call. is planning to be next Monday 9:30AM PDT, no
> > conflicts heard so far. Could you provide a EA bridge for this? The agenda
> > is for FEC associated discussions. (I believe Frank E. is traveling.)
> >
> > Frank C.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Glen Kramer [mailto:glen.kramer@teknovus.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 11:08 AM
> > To: STDS-802-3-10GEPON@listserv.ieee.org
> > Subject: Re: [8023-10GEPON] Presentation on FEC for 10G
> >
> > Frank,
> >
> > Thank you for organizing the FEC discussions.
> >
> > Few people have asked me for a summary of the FEC call. Would you please,
> > post to the reflector a short overview of the call: what was discussed and
> > any steps planned next.
> >
> > Also, if you plan another conf call, please announce it on the reflector,
> > so that those who are interested, but missed the first call could join this
> > time.
> >
> > I also want to remind everybody that the Ethernet Alliance has offered
> > 10GEPON group a sponsorship in a form of hosting conference calls. Please,
> > let me know if you would like to have a conference call in preparation for
> > the September meeting.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Glen
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Frank Effenberger [mailto:feffenberger@HUAWEI.COM]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:44 AM
> > > To: STDS-802-3-10GEPON@listserv.ieee.org
> > > Subject: [8023-10GEPON] Presentation on FEC for 10G
> > >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > I am interested in putting together a presentation on FEC for 10G (serial)
> > > PONs.  Judging from the materials from the July meeting, I think that
> > > there is some common support for the following basic ideas:
> > >
> > > 1. FEC should be applied at the very lowest layer (streaming-FEC).
> > > 2. FEC should be a mandatory part of the line code.
> > > 3. FEC codeword size should be aligned with the other EPON structure sizes
> > > (such as 66b blocks and MPCP time quanta)
> > >
> > > There are related topics that I don't think we've reached consensus on:
> > > a. Choice of basic FEC algorithm (e.g, RS, BCH, etc.)
> > > b. Line-rate increasing versus MAC-rate reducing approach
> > > c. Code-rate and objective gain values
> > > (some of these require collaboration with PMD specialists.)
> > >
> > > If there are people who are interested in working with me on a
> > > presentation on these topic areas, please let me know.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Frank Effenberger
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Glen Kramer [mailto:glen.kramer@teknovus.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 5:04 PM
> > > To: STDS-802-3-10GEPON@listserv.ieee.org
> > > Subject: [8023-10GEPON] presentations for September meeting
> > >
> > > Dear colleagues,
> > >
> > > It appears that our next meeting will take place on September 18th and
> > > 19th (Monday and Tuesday) and the High-Speed SG will meet on 20th and 21st, so
> > > there will be no overlap and interested people will be able to attend
> > > both meetings.
> > >
> > > The meeting venue has not been finalized yet. A venue should be announced
> > > at least 30 days before the meeting, so expect the announcement very soon.
> > >
> > > Meanwhile, it is time to start working on presentations for the next
> > > meeting.
> > >
> > > There are many specific topics/features that we have to reach consensus
> > > on:
> > >
> > > Downstream Wavelength
> > > Upstream Wavelength
> > > Power budgets
> > > FEC: Optional or Mandatory
> > > FEC Category: Stream-based vs. Frame-based
> > > other topics - anything that is in scope of our PAR can be discussed.
> > >
> > > If you can think of any other topic not listed here, please propose it on
> > > the reflector. 
> > >
> > > If you have opinion on any of these or other topics, make a presentation
> > > with arguments in favor of it. Remember, a proposal should have > 75%
> > > support to get accepted as a baseline. It is a good idea to circulate
> > > proposals on the reflector and get feedback, and to enlist additional
> > > supporters.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Glen

2006sept-FEClinecoding-FC2.pdf