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Re: [8023-10GEPON] Presentation on FEC for 10G



All,

Here is a short summary of the call that on FEC.

The attendees were: Ryan Hirth, Frank Chang, Roger Berrel, Jeff Mandin, and
Frank Effenberger.  Frank Chang kindly provided the conference call number.

Frank E. prepared a short slideset to discuss some of the
byte/block/codeword alignment issues (see first attached preso). 
These slides served as a sort of conversation starter...

The main topics of discussion were: 
1. The topic of FEC can be broken into two parts: the FEC algorithm and its
effect on the optical performance, and the framing of FEC into the 10G
Ethernet signal.  The slides coming into the meeting focused on the framing
aspects.  Frank Chang offered to prepare some slides on the
algorithm/performance topic.  In fact, Frank C. has done this, which is the
second file attachment.

2. It seemed agreed that FEC needs to be at the lowest layer, and that the
64b code blocks should fit evenly into the FEC code input (in other words,
the FEC input should be a multiple of 66bits or 65bits).  

3. Time quanta - there was a variety of opinions on whether the time quanta
should stay the same as 1G EPON (16 ns), or if it should be changed to fit
the new speed better.  No conclusions were drawn on this issue on the call,
although some people on the call needed to do more work on the topic.

4. The line rate - there was a divergence of opinions on this issue, too.
The original slideset presented the super-rate approach, where the MAC rate
stays at 10Gb/s, and the optics are speed-up to permit space for the parity.
On deciding this super-rate, there were a variety of values, some based on
numerical theory and others on practical availability of serdes parts.
Others on the call suggested that the PHY should stay at 10.3125 Gb/s, and
the MAC should be slowed down.  It was also noted that increasing the data
rate will also increase receiver noise, so that must be balanced against the
bandwidth and architectural advantages.  Once again, a question to be
discussed more.  

5. 66b versus 65b coding - The first presentation presents the use of 66 bit
versus 65 bit representation as a question.  It seems that some people like
to stay with 66b code (for familiarity sake), and others see the efficiency
advantage of 65b representation.  

6. Synchronization patterns - The first presentation illustrates a few
synchronization patterns that are intended for continuous synch. State
machine.  It was noted that in the upstream, a special 'leader' pattern
would likely be needed to get FEC codeword delimitation quickly, so that the
state-machine could be kick-started.  The length and operation of these
patterns was another issue that needs more work.

7. Layer-scope question - There was some disagreement on what is in or out
of scope of the current work, with some people claiming that it was 'easy'
to change parameters of the MAC, while others claiming the opposite.  This
certainly will be an ongoing area of contention.  

8. Agreed path forward - the involved parties agreed that it would be good
to re-draft the collected materials into a sort of presentation which
presented each design issue as a question, and avoided making a position
statement on any of the issues.  This was seen as helping bring the whole
group up to speed on the topics.  Frank C. and Ryan H. would volunteer
additional materials to the effort.  

Thanks, 
Frank Effenberger

-----Original Message-----
From: Glen Kramer [mailto:glen.kramer@teknovus.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:08 PM
To: 'Frank Effenberger'; STDS-802-3-10GEPON@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: RE: [8023-10GEPON] Presentation on FEC for 10G

Frank,

Thank you for organizing the FEC discussions. 

Few people have asked me for a summary of the FEC call. Would you please,
post to the reflector a short overview of the call: what was discussed and
any steps planned next. 

Also, if you plan another conf call, please announce it on the reflector, so
that those who are interested, but missed the first call could join this
time.

I also want to remind everybody that the Ethernet Alliance has offered
10GEPON group a sponsorship in a form of hosting conference calls. Please,
let me know if you would like to have a conference call in preparation for
the September meeting.


Regards,
Glen 

2006sept-FEClinecoding-DRAFT.ppt

2006sept-FEClinecoding-FC.ppt