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Re: XGMII




Single clock, BETTER.

(anyone want to follow with BEST?)

Best Regards,
Rich
   
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"Hakimi, Sharam (Sharam)" wrote:
> 
> Single clock, GOOD.
> 
> Sharam
> 
> > ----------
> > From:         Claus Stetter[SMTP:cstetter@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent:         Tuesday, July 18, 2000 5:32 PM
> > To:   Roger Ronald; 802.3ae
> > Subject:      Re: XGMII
> >
> >
> > Hi Roger,
> >
> > I fully agree with your statement. Why add additional pins to an already
> > wide interface and add the complication of synchronization when it can be
> > done with relative ease with a single reference clock? Several companies
> > that I know of are implementing XGMII as presented and have not had issues
> > with the proposed timing spec.
> >
> > If it ain't broke, don't fix it  ;-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Claus
> >
> >
> > Claus Stetter
> > Allayer Communications
> >
> > Tel:  +1 408 570 0888 x170
> > Fax:  +1 408 570 0880
> > Cell: +1 408 221 6461
> >
> > Email: cstetter@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > http://www.allayer.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Roger Ronald <rronald@xxxxxxx>
> > To: Justin Gaither <jgaither@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 802.3ae
> > <stds-802-3-hssg@xxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 4:26 AM
> > Subject: Re: XGMII
> >
> >
> > >
> > > This interface does not seem to be any harder than interfacing to DDR
> > RAM
> > > at the same speed. Every corner garage shop will soon be turning out
> > > DDR RAM based motherboards soon.
> > >
> > > Personally, I'd much rather have relatively tight timing instead of
> > > complications in the clocking and a whole new chip to chip
> > > protocol to spec/understand/debate/document/build.
> > >
> > > RR
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Justin Gaither" <jgaither@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "802.3ae" <stds-802-3-hssg@xxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 3:15 PM
> > > Subject: XGMII
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Everyone,
> > > >
> > > >     Concerning the XGMII interface, I remember at least one comment
> > > > during the plenary and I have the same reservation concerning the
> > > > extreme width and tightness of the setup and hold timing.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to suggest separate clocks for each of the 8 bit lanes.
> > > > This would allow each lane to have a manageable number of tightly
> > > > coupled signals, and allow for 1 or two clocks skew between lanes.
> > The
> > > > Bus could easily be spread across the pins of a device enabling
> > > > distributed reference and less ground bounce. I don't see adding 3
> > more
> > > > pins to a 37 pin interface to be excessive.  Synchronization of the
> > > > lanes could be done using the control lines for a sync.  (i.e.. 1111
> > > > followed by 1000 on the control is start of data).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Justin Gaither                 Phone: 512-306-7292  x529
> > > > RocketChips, Inc.              Fax:   512-306-7293
> > > > 500 N. Capital of TX Hwy.
> > > > Bldg 3                         email: jgaither@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Austin, TX 78746               WWW:   www.rocketchips.com
                                   
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