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Re: [802.3_SPEP2P] S parameter for 500m channel



Hello Georges,

 

These are a new set of S-parameters for 18AWG-500m cable;  the phase issue has been corrected by doing interpolation above 32Mhz.

 

 

Sdd, Scd, Sdc : S2p touchtone formatted, 125kHz to 100 MHz, step 125kHz

SPE100 : excel format Sdd11, Sdd22, Sdd21, Scd11, Scd22, Scd21, 125kHz to 100MHz, step 125kHz

 

Regards

 

Francois Beauregard

 

From: George Zimmerman <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 5:22 PM
To: STDS-802-3-SPEP2P@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [802.3_SPEP2P] S parameter for 500m channel

 

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Francios – did you compare the phase response?  That was what tingting mentioned in her email.  Sometimes phase responses (particularly at low frequencies) get messed up due to various processing techniques.  These are important for extracting time-domain simulations.  They also are a bit tricky to scale properly with length.

 

From: stds-802-3-spep2p@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <stds-802-3-spep2p@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Francois Beauregard
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 2:06 PM
To: zhangtingting (O) <zhangtingting59@xxxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-3-SPEP2P@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: S parameter for 500m channel

 

Hello Tingting,

 

I scaled down the 500m measurements to 100m.  The IL was found to be in good agreement with the model proposed by Voss/Wachtel

 

 

Regards

 

Francois Beauregard

 

From: zhangtingting (O) <00001e92abc91102-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 8:46 PM
To: STDS-802-3-SPEP2P@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [802.3_SPEP2P] S parameter for 500m channel

 

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Hi,

 

I found that the phase calculated from the real and imag of S21 in the online Excel seems to weird. Besides, the frequency step is 0.125MHz for frequencies less than 32MHz, and increases to 0.25MHz after 32MHz. If the correct measurement data of 500m channel is not available, LT Spice model has to be used to get S parameters for time domain simulation.

 

The online presentation associated with the LT Spice model is wrong (incorrect link). Do the inline connectors need to be included for the 500m channel, or just cascade five 100m segments?

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Best wishes,

Tingting


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