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All, At
today’s meeting it seemed like much of the informative channel spec is
being based on just one set of simulations / analyses – those done by Joe
Abler of IBM. Other analyses – including stat eye -- have not been as optimistic. In particular, when significant amounts
of Tx and Rx jitter are included, the number of channels that “work” drops considerably. In anderson_01_1104 I showed that I
could get stat eye results that were better (more optimistic) than Joe Abler’s for a small subset of channels, provided
that I used assumptions similar to his. When I use other assumptions that I feel are reasonable, I get results that
are worse than Joe’s. It seems that small differences in assumptions can lead to dramatically different results. (This
probably doesn’t surprise anyone!) One can argue about which set of
assumptions should be used. But this probably cannot be resolved, since it is partly dependent on the implementation of the
receiver, the IC packaging, etc. A spectrum of chip implementations will lead to a spectrum of results. This leads to my first question:
Shouldn’t the informative channel be based on analyses that are at the pessimistic end of the spectrum? Another
question: The LMS line in Richard’s presentation could lie right on
the attenuation limit. This is about -30 dB at 5 GHz. Richard purposely didn’t
include any package effects. But I’m going to assume that these can add another 2 dB of attenuation. With a Tx
level of 800 mV ppd this gives us 20 mV ppd at the receiver, or 10 mV pp single-ended. Do other chip
people think we can receive this? Regards, Steve
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