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Re: [8023-CMSG] Backplane ring study group



Please remove discussion of rings to the appropriate forum.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stds-802-3-cm@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> [mailto:owner-stds-802-3-cm@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG]On Behalf Of Khaled Amer
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:56 AM
> To: STDS-802-3-CM@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: Re: [8023-CMSG] Backplane ring study group
>
>
> David,
>
> I think we should put more effort into more of higher level
> items including
> motivational material for this work, what is the problem that
> we're looking
> into solving, any data available to show the problem, any
> data available to
> show characteristics of the traffic we're addressing, what is
> the size of
> the market, why is the suggested ring solution a good one for
> this problem,
> ...etc.
>
> My 2 cents anyhow ...
>
> Khaled Amer
> President, AmerNet Inc.
> Modeling Specialists - Performance Optimization
>
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David V James" <dvj@ALUM.MIT.EDU>
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 12:46 PM
> Subject: Backplane ring study group
>
>
> > All,
> >
> > At the 12Apr2004 MSC meeting, a PAR was approved for:
> >   P1796 Resilient backplane ring (RBR)
> >
> > We cannot meet as a working group until the submitted PAR is
> > approved by the IEEE. In the meantime, however, we can have
> > an organizing study group teleconference:
> >
> >   Scheduled Conference Date: Friday, May 07, 2004
> >   Scheduled Start Time: 1:30 p.m. Pacific Daylight Time
> >   Scheduled End Time: 3:30 p.m. Pacific Daylight Time
> >   Dial-in Number:  1-702-835-5000 (Las Vegas, Nevada)
> >   Participant Access Code: 17960504
> >
> > The wording of the submitted PAR scope is as follows:
> >   "Resilient backplane ring (RBR) is a backplane
> interconnect based on the
> >   dual-ring resilient topology of Resilient Packet Ring and
> the 802 MAC
> >   addressing structure. RBR includes features appropriate for the
> > low-latency
> >   backplane environment: destination-based flow control, low-power
> > short-haul
> >   PHY, backplane-to-backplane links, transport of IEEE-1394
> isochronous
> > data,
> >   and support of IEEE-1596 memory-update operations."
> >
> > Background material includes:
> >
> http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/msc/MSC200404/RbrSlides2004Mar31.pdf
> >   http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/msc/MSC200401/RprBackplane.pdf
> >
> > Items on the agenda include:
> >   1) Formulation of email reflector lists.
> >   2) Review of approved PAR.
> >   3) Sollicitation of technical inputs and strawman proposals.
> >   4) Discussion of related activities.
> >   5) Future meeting schedule.
> >   6) Other items as requested.
> >
> > In particular, this is an opportunity to suggest
> directions, revisions
> > of the slides and objectives, and/or strawman proposals. While the
> > background information may look pretty, its content should not be
> > viewed as a constraint/limitation as we move forward.
> >
> > I appoligize for the short notice, but things have been delayed as
> > an offered host has failed to materialize as expected.
> >
> > Since teleconferences are free (see freeconference.com, for
> such things),
> > we can have these as often as desired.
> >
> > DVJ
> >
> > David V. James
> > 3180 South Ct
> > Palo Alto, CA 94306
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> > Base: dvj@alum.mit.edu
> >
>