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Larry Golob has been trying to send a copy of his optical link models to this reflector, but has been stymied by the 250 KB size limit that we impose on messages. Thus, I have placed his models on our web site at: http://www.ieee802.org/3/efm/public/jul01/index.html There you will find a rather large zip file which you may download at your leisure. I'll leave it to Larry to explain the models in a separate message. Howard Frazier Chair, IEEE 802.3 EFM Study Group