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RE: [EFM] EFM Requirements



I lost track of who said what and to whom (!) - I agree strongly with the following:
 
I do not think that location of the demarcation point is beside the point.
(RB - i.e. the location of the demarcation point is vital for definition of responsibilities.)
I do think that who owns the physical box that encompasses the demarcation point is beside the point.

I do think that whether the physical box that encompasses the demarcation point is purchased from the exchange carrier or via the retail channel is beside the point
 
RB - this is very similar to how the T1 CSU/DSU demarc works (and has worked exceptionally well for many years). It is a good model to leverage.
 
Bob
 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-3-efm@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-3-efm@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Geoff Thompson
Sent: 20 August 2001 20:43
To: Faye Ly
Cc: Harry Hvostov; Geoff Thompson; Sherman Ackley; stds-802-3-efm
Subject: RE: [EFM] EFM Requirements

Faye-

I believe that you misunderstood me, see below:


At 11:18 AM 8/20/01 -0700, Faye Ly wrote:
Harry,
 
But I thought we (EFM) are not dealing with OAM&P issues as to
'plug and play ONUs'?  Where the demark point is, seems to me, is not
crucial to the plug and play ONUs. 
 
A fully plug and play ONU actually involves more than just demark point but also
the application that will deal with:
 
1. loop qualification
2. PC installation software
3. Diagnostic software such as ping or traceroute
 
I am not sure this is something we need to talk about at this forum but I do agree
with you that 'no truck roll' is essential to the deployment of the EFM technology.
But I also agree with Geoff that where the demark point is probably is besides the point.

I do not think that location of the demarcation point is beside the point.
I do think that who owns the physical box that encompasses the demarcation point is beside the point.
I do think that whether the physical box that encompasses the demarcation point is purchased from the exchange carrier or via the retail channel is beside the point


-faye

Geoff