[EFM] RE: [EFM-P2MP] Point-to-Point plus Shared Media
 
A few P2MP comments.............
 
> Emulation 
Sub-Layer and Protocol 
 
The emulation 
sublayer using a logical PHY ID approach allows for compatibility and 
interoperability with 802.1.  So far, so good... but there are 
several open questions:
- There are 2 
emulation choices being discussed:  point-to-point P2PE and shared SE.  
Will one of these be defined, or will both be defined so that the vendor decides 
on whether to implement 
P2PE, SE, or P2P+SE.  Example: one may choose for business P2PE, for 
inter-campus - SE, for residential - P2P+SE. 
- Will the emulation 
sub-layer be independent of the 
protocol layer?  So far it looks that 
way, that each layer will do its job without the other 
one.   
- Can P2MP Ethernet be deployed without the 
emulation sub-layer and achieve multi-vendor compatibility, or will EPON require the PHY ID even if it is 
not used?
-  If 
implementing both P2P+Shared emulation, the ONU has to have two 
logical MACs. Does a 2-logical 
MAC ONU unduly increase the 
ONU complexity?  
- Without the emulation 
sublayer, one can not have layer-2 
ONU-to-ONU communication, but one can do single frame broadcast and point to 
point OLT-ONU communication using 
VLAN.  Is this a tradeoff/decision (to use, or not to use, the 
emulation layer) that the system implementer will decide on?  
- In which layer below the MAC will this 
sub-layer occur?  
 
I would 
appreciate hearing comments/opinions on the above questions.  So far the impression I have is that most are 
proposing that both P2PE and SE be defined in a below-MAC sublayer, they operate 
independent of the P2MP control-frame protocol, with implementation decided by 
the vendor.  Do I have that right....
 
As a reminder, if 
you want to get involved in the group Protocol/Emulation framework 
details, please contact one of the leads below who are coordinating conference 
calls, etc..   
Protocol Framework
    Ryan Hirth: RHirth@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Ajay Gummalla: 
ajay@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Onn Haran: onn.haran@xxxxxxxxxxx 
Emulation Framework
    Hiroshi Suzuki: hsuzuki@xxxxxxxxx 
    John Pickens: 
jpickens@xxxxxxxxx 
 
Some of the 
initial draft work is being done off the reflector.... I will do my best to 
encourage these drafts/discussions to  be posted on the P2MP reflector, as these are the two 
paramount topics for P2MP track... but not 
getting enough air time on the P2MP reflector.
 
> Cost of 
deploying fiber  
 
 
 
> Requirements 
(Roy wrote): 
> I think that the "service providers" need to get together and 
make 
> a presentation at 
the next meeting that would include the "services" 
> and the functional requirements of those 
"services".
You would think that after a year we would have 
that figured out, but we probably don't - I think everyone would welcome more 
service provider presentations.  Also, I would encourage you to give 
input to the "Requirements III" presentation that Dolors (dolors@xxxxxxxxxxxx) is 
leading.  This is a clean-up of the first two group Requirements 
presentations from the previous two meetings, and 
it covers (to an extent) functional requirements. Thanks.   
 
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Gerry 
Pesavento 
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