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Re: [802.3_EPOC] 回复: Re: [802.3_EPOC] What is the problem with the EPoC converter, and what is the CLT?



Sorry... Could you translate to English?

Jorge

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From: 姚永 [mailto:yy0412@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 08:42 PM
To: STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [802.3_EPOC] 回复: Re: [802.3_EPOC] What is the problem with the EPoC converter, and what is the CLT?
 
抱歉,我没有学过英语,只好用中文答复。
“桥”应该是二层、也就是数据链路层(包括MAC)的设备,博通专利中的名称是CMC,意思是“Coaxial Media Converter”——物理层的转换。我的上一个邮件实际是对单纯物理层转换提出了疑问。但是我们希望MAC层不要分成两段——光和电各一段,也就是不希望当中有个桥接设备。在中国,EoC最初就是以“缆桥”命名的,其短板就是不能端到端。我们认为,解决的方案之一就是扩展EPON MPCP协议,在CMC(或者OCU、或者ECB,叫什么不重要)变换一下帧格式,也许还要增加一些预测帧,同时对数据存储转发,但是保持OLT对CNU的控制、管理、调度。
 
2012-03-04

姚永

发件人:Geoff Thompson
发送时间:2012-03-04 08:09
主题:Re: [802.3_EPOC] What is the problem with the EPoC converter, and what is the CLT?
收件人:STDS-802-3-EPOC
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David-
As I discussed in my earlier message,
your statement below:

‘Bridge’ is actually the more generic term.

is not correct.
In IEEE 802, a "bridge" is not a generic term.
Rather, it is a specific type of device whose configuration in standardized in 802.1

Best regards,
    Geoff Thompson

On 23//12 11:42 PM, Barr, David wrote:
From: David Barr <David.Barr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 17:01:43 -0800
To: "Salinger, Jorge" <Jorge_Salinger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, EPoC Study Group <STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [802.3_EPOC] What is the problem with the EPoC converter, and what is the CLT?

Yes, I agree with Jorge, Valy, Satish & Mr. Yao (SARFT), that a Bridge makes more sense.

‘Media Converter’ implies a PHY-layer hub, which will not be optimum for coax.

MACs are just digital logic, which are fully exposed to Moore’s Law.

Why preserve the MAC, if it becomes a vanishingly small part of the solution?

Particularly when preserving the sub-optimum MAC ruins the economics on coax.

‘Bridge’ is actually the more generic term.

The advisable approach is to bridge to coax-optimized technology,

with IEEE focusing on specifying the manageability & provisioning across that bridge.

-Dave