Re: [802.3_EPOC] EPoC or EPOC?

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Jorge

I agree with Geoff on this one and I will add one more reason why.

I went back to my editor and showed her this email thread and asked her what the proper convention should be as the answer for this question.

My wife who is graduate English major and was a Director running worldwide literacy programs says the word “over” or “of” are acting as prepositions tying nouns together and therefore they aren’t capitalized. So EPoC, would follow the proper grammatical convention.

However if you want to be a rugged individualist… “may the EPOC be with you…..”

Regards

Tom

From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:thompson@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 5:10 PM
To: STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [802.3_EPOC] EPoC or EPOC?

Jorge-

I would suggest that "an appropriate convention" would be:
    - Capital "O" for "Optical" or variations thereof (e.g. EPON)
    - Lower case "o" for "over" as in PoE (Power over Ethernet) and EPoC
The guiding general principle would be capitalize technical nouns and not for other terms.
On the other hand, we should not get hung up on this,
and never, never depend on the difference between upper case and lower case to differentiate anything.
(802.1 has gotten into a big mess doing this)
After all, 802.3 has successfully survived having the world call it 10Base-T when it is properly 10BASE-T.

Best regards,
    Geoff

On 33//12 9:41 AM, Salinger, Jorge wrote:

Thanks!

So, since it appears to be up to us, then lower case it shall be, unless someone objects?

And, the meaning of EPoC will be EPON protocol over Coax, right?

All in favor... anyone opposed...

Thanks!
Jorge

From: Marek Hajduczenia [mailto:marek.hajduczenia@xxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 12:21 PM
To: STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [802.3_EPOC] EPoC or EPOC?

Indeed, and a silly one on my side … still does not change the fact that this “of” is in lower-case J

Marek

From: Curtis Knittle [mailto:C.Knittle@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 03 March 2012 17:15
To: Marek Hajduczenia; STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [802.3_EPOC] EPoC or EPOC?

Slight correction here, Marek, and a common mistake made when spelling out the acronym… The “o” in DPoE is for “of”, as in DOCSIS Provisioning *of* EPON.

Curtis

From: Marek Hajduczenia [mailto:marek.hajduczenia@xxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:20 AM
To: STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [802.3_EPOC] EPoC or EPOC?

Jorge,

I think “appropriate” in this context is a relative term. We, the SG members, ought to decide what the proper way of referencing the technology is. I recall in 802.3av, we spent half a day debating what to call PMDs and what EPON really is, how to designate symmetric and asymmetric options etc.. Someone might think it was a waste of time, but I think it clarified a lot and served a consensus building exercise and fostered better understanding among membership of that TF.

In here, I would suggest to use “EPoC”. First, because of DPoE already defined by CableLabs, which incidentally also uses “over” in the name, and second, because this is the capitalization used in the CFI and the SG website (see http://www.ieee802.org/3/epoc/index.html). We should be consistent with that and not try to change the name unless there is a strong reason for it (e.g. would cause confusion with some other technology or brand name, which is not the case AFAIK).

Hope that helps

Regards

Marek

From: Salinger, Jorge [mailto:Jorge_Salinger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 03 March 2012 15:05
To: STDS-802-3-EPOC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [802.3_EPOC] EPoC or EPOC?

Study Group members,

I see the acronym EPOC (with capital O) used in the IEEE discussions. Within the Cable Industry I have seen the acronym EPoC (with lower case o) used in our discussions, maybe borrowing from the use of the acronym DPoE (DOCSIS Provisioning of EPON).

Can someone with appropriate knowledge and understanding clarify whether EPOC or EPoC is right and why?

Thanks!

Jorge

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