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RE: Doing Nothing About Anything?




Oops. Yes, that is 2mH.



>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: R karam [mailto:rkaram@xxxxxxxxx]
>  Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 6:43 PM
>  To: DOVE,DANIEL J (HP-Roseville,ex1); stds-802-3-pwrviamdi@xxxxxxxx
>  Subject: RE: Doing Nothing About Anything?
>  
>  
>  Hi Dan
>  
>  I will not have a full 3 weeks to do all the measurements 
>  that I did on the 
>  signal pair, but will try to do the basic ones to see it the 
>  Mid-Span is
>  feasible.  have not seen parts from Hank yet, and would the 
>  20uh inductance 
>  in parallel with the 1000BT magnetic affect the 1000BT? 
>  unless you meant 2mh?
>  
>  Also Please see if the PHY vendors are willing to do the 
>  full suite of tests.
>  are the capacitances speced at 1% what is the easiest way to 
>  get them?
>  roger
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  At 04:58 PM 2/1/01 -0800, DOVE,DANIEL J (HP-Roseville,ex1) wrote:
>  >Hi Roger,
>  >
>  >You may have already received a package from the generous 
>  Mr. Hank Hinrichs
>  >who indicated to me that he is going to be providing a set
>  >of inductors to various members of this committee that can be used
>  >to inject power into a mid-span connection that should support 
>  >1000BASE-T operation.
>  >
>  >I know that you would like to see 1000BASE-T supported, and I would
>  >like to see mid-span, so perhaps we can both perform similar tests 
>  >to the ones you presented in Irvine to determine whether a -20dB
>  >return loss injected at the mid-span will impact performance in a 
>  >measureable way.
>  >
>  >I would recommend using these 20uH inductors with a set of 1uF 
>  >high SRF caps in series on the line to isolate the DC from the
>  >switch.
>  >                          1uF
>  >       4>-----------------| |-------+-------------140m?---->4
>  >                                    )
>  >                                    )
>  >Switch                              }---- DC+              DTE
>  >                                    |
>  >                                    |
>  >       5>-----------------| |-------+-------------140m?---->5
>  >                          1uF
>  >                          1uF
>  >       7>-----------------| |-------+-------------140m?---->7
>  >                                    )
>  >                                    )
>  >Switch                              }---- DC-              DTE
>  >                                    |
>  >                                    |
>  >       8>-----------------| |-------+-------------140m?---->8
>  >                          1uF
>  >The DTE device can take power from the center taps of its GigT
>  >transformers per your earlier measurements.
>  >
>  >Of course, it would be nice to measure the actual 2-port 
>  >parameters of the injection device as well. I appreciate your
>  >offer at the meeting to assist in this and hope you can find 
>  >time in your schedule to help out.
>  >
>  >Thanks,
>  >
>  >Dan Dove
>  >HP ProCurve Networks
>  >>  -----Original Message-----
>  >>  From: R karam [mailto:rkaram@xxxxxxxxx]
>  >>  Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 10:33 AM
>  >>  To: stds-802-3-pwrviamdi@xxxxxxxx
>  >>  Subject: Doing Nothing About Anything?
>  >>  
>  >>  
>  >>  
>  >>  Hi
>  >>  
>  >>  if the Ad-Hoc's are not "secrets" can we have a list of the 
>  >>  "active" ones
>  >>  while we are at it add a chili pepper next to a "hot" 
>  one, so we can
>  >>  have  a beer a head of stepping in....
>  >>  
>  >>  the idea is to do some work a head of next meeting to help 
>  >>  humanity power
>  >>  its future gadgets...
>  >>  
>  >>  rk
>  >>  
>  >>  
>