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RE: Additional Chair Guidelines

So Jim where do you buy that insurance; you know, the insurance for the
process?  Or did you mean that you ensure the process.

Sorry, that word is one of my pet peeves and I know that a lot of the
dictionaries have caved to the misusage, but for the same number of
letters you can use the correct word.

Regards and have fun in Montreal,

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Carlo []
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 7:25 AM
To: IEEE802
Subject: Additional Chair Guidelines

The following are three proposed chair guidelines:
Submissions to RevCom
PAR Numbering for IEEE 802
Privacy of Balloting Group

Submissions to RevCom:

Per IEEE 802 operating rules, the SEC has the responsibility to:
3.1.j)Oversee formation of sponsor ballot groups and sponsor ballot process.

Per IEEE Operating rules, The Sponsor shall submit the required number of
copies of the entire proposed standard, together with all required
documentation in accordance with the most current version of the IEEE-SA
Standards Board Working Guide for Submittal of Proposed Standards to the
Secretary of the IEEE-SA Standards Board at least 40 days before the IEEE-SA
Standards Board meeting.

Translating this into practice, I suggest the following.

1) The Working Group Chair or designated reporter (the name of the person
signed the PAR form on file at the IEEE office), must sign the RevCom
form. RevCom verifies that the signature of the submitter matches the
on the PAR form. The SEC chair can sign the submittal form in rare cases.

2) The SEC must approve the submission to RevCom by either EMAIL ballot or
approval motion at the SEC meeting or conditional approval motion. Normally,
what is needed for this approval motion is for the WG chair to show the
Ballot Results, detail any no votes, and show the results of the ballot
resolution group (and possibly WG) decision to submit to RevCom.

3) The sponsor chair of IEEE 802 LMSC (Jim Carlo) may remove an item from
RevCom agenda for good cause (I have an obligation to insure integrity in
process). In such cases, I will immediately inform the SEC and Working Group

4) All pre-submittals to RevCom before SEC approval, require me being
so that I may initiate and insure action by SEC on the RevCom submission.

PAR Numbering for 802

1) Standard 802 provides the basic architecture for 802 standards. As such,
there is no number or letter suffix. There is currently a revision PAR,
that is updating this standard.

1.1 Notes:

1.2) Examples
1.2a) 802 - This is the IEEE 802 Standard: Overview and Architecture

2) Working Groups will utilize PAR numbers as 802.nx where:
n - the number assigned to the Working Group
x - a lower case letter assigned to each supplement or corrigenda.

2.1) Notes:
2.1a) After x goes to z, the next PAR is 802.naa,, etc.
2.1b) In general, the base working group standard, 802.n eventually includes
all supplements and corrigenda.
2.1c) Revisions are numbered as 802.nRevm, where m is the revision update
sequence number. In some cases, a Revision is started as a supplement, then
becomes a revision, so the initial letter designation holds.

2.2) Examples
2.2a) 802.5v - This is a supplement to 802.5 Token Ring MAC standard.
2.2b) 802.3ab - This is a supplement to 802.3 CSMA/CD MAC standard.
2.2c) 802.5Rev2 - Second revision to 802.5 Token Ring Mac standard.

3) In the case of 802.1, which is for higher layer protocols above the MAC,
multiple separate standards and associated supplements are produced. There
no standard, 802.1. The method to identify whether a project is a supplement
a standard is under study, as the lower/upper case designation has been

3.1) Notes
3.1a) In the past, a lower case letter was assigned to a supplement or
corrigenda and an upper case letter was assigned to a standard. This small
capital letter use is VERY confusing and a better method is under study
some computer type fonts do not distinguish between capitalization.

3.2) Example:
3.2a) 802.1D - MAC Bridge Standard
3.2b) 802.1p - Supplement to 802.1D for Priority Control operation.

3.3) The following are the separate standards within 802.1:
802.1B - LAN/MAN Management
802.1D - MAC Bridges
802.1E - System Load Protocol
802.1F - Common Definitions and Procedures for IEEE 802 Management
802.1G - Remote MAC Bridging
802.1H - Recommended Practice for MAC Bridging on Ethernet Ver 2.0 in 802
802.1Q - Virtual LANs

4) In some cases, where the project will be a supplement of 802.1D or
but the project deals totally with a single MAC protocol, the project number
802.nx, as defined in the relevant working group.

4.1) Notes:

4.2) Examples:
4.2a) 802.5x - Supplement to 802.1Q for Token Ring MAC (802.5) VLANS.


1) The list of contributors to a standard (to appear in the frontpiece)
IEEE 802 WG should normally be included with the document during the Sponsor
Ballot Period. This list will be used to determine which WG members and
experts will receive a copy of the standard when approved by the Standards

2) The list of WG voters and their EMAIL addresses on a WG draft should be
available during the WG ballots on the same secure site as the WG draft.
list shall not be used for any commercial purposes.

3) The list of IEEE Sponsor Ballot group voters and their EMAIL addresses on
IEEE Sponsor Ballot should be made available during the IEEE Sponsor Ballot
the same secure site as the Sponsor Ballot draft. This list shall not be
for any commercial purposes.

Jim Carlo( Cellular:1-214-693-1776  Voice&FAX
TI Fellow, Networking Standards at Texas Instruments
Chair, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 Telecom and Info Exchange Between Systems
Chair, IEEE 802 LAN MAN Standards Committee