RE: Actions from 802 Meeting
Jim, I'm a little uncomfortable with the wording in your item #3, but I
see that it was similar before so I must have missed it last time it
came around. At any rate I will provide my comments:
Your message proposed the following:
3) Modify chair's guidelines on Registration Fees, Section 2.4:
NEW: 2) Invited (by members of the SEC) guests who attend meetings for specific value,
provide tutorials should be exempt from the meeting fee. Unless they pay a
meeting fee, they will not be counted as WG voters. These individuals may
participate in WG meetings. Note that observers are allowed to comment on WG
documents and vote at the IEEE sponsor level if they meet requirements here.
They should not count toward IPF fee. They should register to receive a name badge.
* I don't care for the phrase "... for specific value, provide tutorials ..." because it sounds like the person is paying some special fee which is not explained. May I suggest the following alternative: " ... for a specific purpose that is of value to general attendees (e.g. to provide a tutorial presentation) ..."
* I also unhappy that the next sentence does not quite say what we all know that it means. I would like to suggest the following alternative: "Guests, who do not pay a meeting fee, may not vote in WG meetings during that plenary and their attendance will not be counted toward building or maintaining voting membership in any WG."
There, now I'm happy. We DO need to make sure that our guidelines are precise and not open to misinterpretation.
Thanx, Buzz
Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
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> From: Jim Carlo[SMTP:jcarlo@ti.com]
> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 5:12 PM
> To: IEEE802
> Subject: Actions from 802 Meeting
>
> Here's my notes from 802 meeting on updating chair's guidelines. Howard, do
> you want to do this or should I? I cannot find the original source file.
> 1) Add item to chair's guidelines, Section 2.1, note(4) on Press Releases:
> (4) Press release drafts should be approved by the SEC (meeting or Email
> Ballot). The WG should normally also approve a press release, although in
> some cases this cannot be done timely and SEC decision will prevail.
> 2) Modify chair's tutorial guidelines, Section 2.5, as follows:
> Item 3) to now read:
> NEW "Hosted by SEC member" rather than
> OLD "Hosted by SEC member or Study Group Chair"
> NEW "Announced to SEC reflector as soon as sponsor ready to proceed" rather
> than OLD "Announced to SEC reflector"
> Item 4) line item deleted:
> DELETE "Products looking to be "Standardized""
> 3) Modify chair's guidelines on Registration Fees, Section 2.4:
> NEW: 2) Invited (by members of the SEC) guests who attend meetings for specific value,
> provide tutorials should be exempt from the meeting fee. Unless they pay a
> meeting fee, they will not be counted as WG voters. These individuals may
> participate in WG meetings. Note that observers are allowed to comment on WG
> documents and vote at the IEEE sponsor level if they meet requirements here.
> They should not count toward IPF fee. They should register to receive a name badge.
> OLD: 2) Invited (by members of the SEC) guests who attend meetings for specific value,
> provide tutorials and have liaison impact on IEEE 802 activities should be exempt from
> the meeting fee. This would apply to key management in other Standards Committees
> who liaise to 802. These individuals (such as the chair of TR 40.8, the chair of
> JTC1/SC25, etc.) provide a strong value add to our work efforts by their attendance.
> Unless they pay a meeting fee, they will not be counted as WG voters. These individuals
> may participate in WG meetings. Note that observers are allowed to comment on WG>
> documents and vote at the IEEE sponsor level if they meet requirements here. They
> should not count toward IPF fee. They should register to receive a name badge.
> Jim Carlo(jcarlo@ti.com) Cellular:1-214-693-1776 Voice&Fax:1-214-853-5274
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