RE: Actions from 802 Meeting
Buzz -
Your wording is a great improvement.
Regards,
Tony
At 14:43 27/03/00 -0800, Rigsbee, Everett O wrote:
>Jim, I'm a little uncomfortable with the wording in your item #3, but I
>see that it was similar before so I must have missed it last time it
>came around. At any rate I will provide my comments:
>
>Your message proposed the following:
>
>3) Modify chair's guidelines on Registration Fees, Section 2.4:
>NEW: 2) Invited (by members of the SEC) guests who attend meetings for
>specific value,
>provide tutorials should be exempt from the meeting fee. Unless they pay a
>meeting fee, they will not be counted as WG voters. These individuals may
>participate in WG meetings. Note that observers are allowed to comment on WG
>documents and vote at the IEEE sponsor level if they meet requirements here.
>They should not count toward IPF fee. They should register to receive a
>name badge.
>
>* I don't care for the phrase "... for specific value, provide
>tutorials ..." because it sounds like the person is paying some special
>fee which is not explained. May I suggest the following alternative: "
>... for a specific purpose that is of value to general attendees (e.g. to
>provide a tutorial presentation) ..."
>
>* I also unhappy that the next sentence does not quite say what we
>all know that it means. I would like to suggest the following
>alternative: "Guests, who do not pay a meeting fee, may not vote in WG
>meetings during that plenary and their attendance will not be counted
>toward building or maintaining voting membership in any WG."
>
>There, now I'm happy. We DO need to make sure that our guidelines are
>precise and not open to misinterpretation.
>
>
>Thanx, Buzz
>Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
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> > ----------
> > From: Jim Carlo[SMTP:jcarlo@ti.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 5:12 PM
> > To: IEEE802
> > Subject: Actions from 802 Meeting
> >
> > Here's my notes from 802 meeting on updating chair's guidelines. Howard, do
> > you want to do this or should I? I cannot find the original source file.
> > 1) Add item to chair's guidelines, Section 2.1, note(4) on Press Releases:
> > (4) Press release drafts should be approved by the SEC (meeting or Email
> > Ballot). The WG should normally also approve a press release, although in
> > some cases this cannot be done timely and SEC decision will prevail.
> > 2) Modify chair's tutorial guidelines, Section 2.5, as follows:
> > Item 3) to now read:
> > NEW "Hosted by SEC member" rather than
> > OLD "Hosted by SEC member or Study Group Chair"
> > NEW "Announced to SEC reflector as soon as sponsor ready to proceed" rather
> > than OLD "Announced to SEC reflector"
> > Item 4) line item deleted:
> > DELETE "Products looking to be "Standardized""
> > 3) Modify chair's guidelines on Registration Fees, Section 2.4:
> > NEW: 2) Invited (by members of the SEC) guests who attend meetings for
> specific value,
> > provide tutorials should be exempt from the meeting fee. Unless they pay a
> > meeting fee, they will not be counted as WG voters. These individuals may
> > participate in WG meetings. Note that observers are allowed to comment
> on WG
> > documents and vote at the IEEE sponsor level if they meet requirements
> here.
> > They should not count toward IPF fee. They should register to receive a
> name badge.
> > OLD: 2) Invited (by members of the SEC) guests who attend meetings for
> specific value,
> > provide tutorials and have liaison impact on IEEE 802 activities should
> be exempt from
> > the meeting fee. This would apply to key management in other Standards
> Committees
> > who liaise to 802. These individuals (such as the chair of TR 40.8, the
> chair of
> > JTC1/SC25, etc.) provide a strong value add to our work efforts by
> their attendance.
> > Unless they pay a meeting fee, they will not be counted as WG voters.
> These individuals
> > may participate in WG meetings. Note that observers are allowed to
> comment on WG>
> > documents and vote at the IEEE sponsor level if they meet requirements
> here. They
> > should not count toward IPF fee. They should register to receive a name
> badge.
> > Jim Carlo(jcarlo@ti.com) Cellular:1-214-693-1776 Voice&Fax:1-214-853-5274
> > TI Fellow, Networking Standards at Texas Instruments
> > Chair, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 Telecom and Info Exchange Between Systems
> > Chair, IEEE802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee
> >