We Need an Instantaneous Response. (That means DO IT NOW !!!)
Based on the 13 emails so far:
1) Is the Sacramento proposal for the same dates as the Orlando proposal?
2) Does 802.3 want to go to Orlando or Sacramento. Geoff, suggest you poll
your Task Force and Study Group chairs.
3) I can conduct an email ballot starting tomorrow and close quickly.
Jim Carlo(jcarlo@ti.com) Cellular:1-214-693-1776 Voice&Fax:1-214-853-5274
TI Fellow, Networking Standards at Texas Instruments
Vice Chair, IEEE-SA Standards Board
Chair, IEEE802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org]On
Behalf Of Rigsbee, Everett O
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 3:31 PM
To: 802 Howard Frazier
Cc: 802 Exec; 802 @F2F Dawn S; 802 @F2F Darcel Moro; Caroline R.
Armstrong; Kesling, Dawson W
Subject: RE: URGENT - We Need an Instantaneous Response. (That means DO
IT NOW !!!)
OK, Yes, I'm losing my mind. I can see the "dot1" right there on the next
line.
Soooo ... Never Mind !!! I better move to Flori-Duh !!! :-)
Thanx, Buzz
Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA 98124-2207
ph: (425) 865-2443, fx: (425) 865-6721
email: everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> ----------
> From: Rigsbee, Everett O[SMTP:Everett.Rigsbee@pss.boeing.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 1:16 PM
> To: Buzz@PSS; 802 Howard Frazier
> Cc: 802 Exec; 802 @F2F Dawn S; 802 @F2F Darcel Moro; Caroline R.
Armstrong; Kesling, Dawson W
> Subject: RE: URGENT - We Need an Instantaneous Response. (That means DO
IT NOW !!!)
>
> Howard, I'm a bit surprised you wouldn't include 802.1 in "802 Classic."
> I certainly would. You can't get much more Classic than 802.1. :-)
> Such an arrangement would be entirely up to the host and the choice of
> the individual WG's. Other than your suggestion, I've had no indication
> from anyone else that such a plan would be desirable or acceptable.
> If you want to stump for your own plan, go right ahead, but be forewarned
...
> we're not going to do any Florida recounts, No Way !!! :-)
> Thanx, Buzz
> Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> Boeing SSG
> PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> Seattle, WA 98124-2207
> ph: (425) 865-2443, fx: (425) 865-6721
> email: everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> > ----------
> > From: Howard Frazier[SMTP:millardo@dominetsystems.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:17 PM
> > To: Rigsbee, Everett O
> > Cc: 802 Exec; 802 @F2F Dawn S; 802 @F2F Darcel Moro; Caroline R.
Armstrong; Kesling, Dawson W
> > Subject: Re: URGENT - We Need an Instantaneous Response. (That means
DO IT NOW !!!)
> > Buzz,
> > I suggest option 2, but divided along the lines of "wireless" in
Orlando,
> > and "802 Classic" in Sac'to, assuming that Intel would be willing to
host
> > dot3, dot17, and dot1.
> > Howard
> > "Rigsbee, Everett O" wrote:
> > > Dear SEC: OK here's the pitch for the May Interim. Please response
ASAP !!!
> > > After some rather intensive searching of the Orlando area for a
suitable venue (and checking other Eastern locations as well) we've finally
come up with something that looks workable, but we need to make an immediate
decision as to how we want to go.
> > > We have found 2nd option availability at the Hyatt Orlando in
Kissimmee, FL (a resort property ~1.5 miles from Walt Disney World).
During our week of May 14-19, 2001, they can offer us up to 625 of their 922
rooms per night and there's a large Radisson right nearby which could
provide any necessary overflow rooms and/or meeting space. The Hyatt
Orlando has a good selection of meeting space, all centrally located, and
almost all of it is currently available (only a couple of the smaller rooms
are currently booked). We believe there is enough space to do all the
meetings for an Interim meeting for all of our Working Groups. The group
rate they are offering is $119/129 S/D. Their pricings for Food &
Beverage, Audio Visual, and Miscellaneous services look to be very
competitive for the area. You can check out all the details of the property
at their website at:
> > > http://www.hyatt.com/usa/kissimmee/hotels/hotel_mcoor.html
> > > OK, so what's this 2nd option business all about ??? This means there
is another group who has asked Hyatt Orlando to hold space for their
function during that same week, but they have not committed to sign a
contract yet. How it works is as follows: if we sign a 2nd option contract
for the dates we want, the other group is given 72 hours to either sign
their contract or release the space (and we're in). The probabilities are
good that if we act now we WILL get the space. The problem is that we have
a nice gentleman from Intel, (Dawson Kesling) who has offered to host an
802.3 Interim meeting at the Hyatt Sacramento, who is holding space there
and he is being pressured to sign a contract or risk losing the space. If
he loses the space and the other group signs the contract at Hyatt Orlando,
then we're back to square zero.>
> > > So I see 3 possible options for us to choose from:
> > > Option #1: We say, "Go for it!" We sign the contract for the full
meeting and we'll know in 72 hours whether we have a site or not. We tell
Dawson, "Thank you very much for your offer and we'll hope to have you host
a meeting in the future." If we strikeout at Hyatt Orlando, we go back and
look at several other back-up properties to get the deal we need (we
currently have several, but only 1 is in the Orlando area).>
> > > Option #2: We divide the meeting. We let 802.3 go ahead and do their
own thing at the Hyatt Sacramento and we do everybody else at Hyatt Orlando
(if we can get in). We can reduce the room block to 500, we will certainly
have plenty of meeting space, and we won't need to worry about overflow
space. OK so it's not a fully co-located 802-Hosted Interim meeting, but we
said this was an experiment to see how it works. It probably best to start
off with a more manageable-sized group anyway.>
> > > Option #3: We blow-off the 802-Hosted May Interim meeting completely,
every WG does their own thing with their own hosts, and we think about maybe
trying this again sometime in the future.
> > > I'm going to go out on a limb here and recommend Option #2 for your
consideration, since it seems to get us a trial run and we take on the least
risk, but the choice really belongs to the WG chairs who have to survive
these meetings. I also think we should weight the voting on this by the
size of the constituency (as recorded at Tampa) since I'm a believer in
1-man, 1-vote, and we're trying to do what's right for the greatest number
of people here (note: this implies the vote for an SEC member with no WG
would count 1).
> > > Whatever you decide (i.e. Option #1, 2, or 3), you must send me you
response TODAY because we risk losing all if we don't decide right away. In
the unlikely event of a tie vote, I flip a coin to see who wins. Please
decide now !!! Later will be TOO LATE and you'll wind up with Option #3 by
default. You may call or send email to Dawn or myself if you have any
burning questions but please don't bother with suggesting other Options
which we have overlooked/forgotten. What you see is what you get. Tempus
Fugit !!!
> > > We await your response. :-)
> > > Thanx, Buzz
> > > Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> > > Boeing SSG
> > > PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> > > Seattle, WA 98124-2207
> > > ph: (425) 865-2443, fx: (425) 865-6721
> > > email: everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> > > Thanx, Buzz
> > > Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> > > Boeing SSG
> > > PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> > > Seattle, WA 98124-2207
> > > ph: (425) 865-2443, fx: (425) 865-6721
> > > email: everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> >
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