Re: URGENT - We Need an Instantaneous Response. (That means DO IT NOW !!!)
Right now the early results from the poll I started on
our reflector indicates people prefer orlando. I would
like to wait until noon today (Est) to make a final
call.
mike
Howard Frazier wrote:
>
> Okay, so if dot3 and dot1 want to go to Sac'to, can we fit dot17 into that
> venue as well? I have lost the information about the meeting host for
> Sac'to, other than I believe it was some one from Intel.
>
> Mike, would dot17 like to go to Sacramento in May, 2001, or would they
> prefer Orlando?
>
> Howard
>
> Steve Carlson wrote:
> >
> > Buzz-
> >
> > I have been in touch with Howard and Jonathan. All of us vote for
> > Sacramento. We have e-mail from 802.1 indicating that they will go where
> > 802.3 goes.
> >
> > Consider this as 802.3's response. Option #2 it is.
> >
> > Thanks and regards,
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > Steven B. Carlson
> > President
> > Co-Chair, ESTA Control Protocols Working Group
> > Chair, ESTA ACN Task Group
> > http://www.esta.org
> > Chair, IEEE 802.3af DTE Power via MDI Task Force
> > http://www.ieee802.org/3/af/index.html
> > High Speed Design, Inc.
> > 11929 NW Old Quarry Road
> > Portland, OR 97229
> > 503.626.4206
> > FAX 503.626.4206
> > scarlson@hspdesign.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:Everett.Rigsbee@PSS.Boeing.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 2:52 PM
> > To: scarlson@hspdesign.com
> > Subject: FW: URGENT - We Need an Instantaneous Response. (That means DO
> > IT NOW !!!)
> >
> > Steve, Here it is !!!
> > Thanx, Buzz
> > Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> > Boeing SSG
> > PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> > Seattle, WA 98124-2207
> > ph: (425) 865-2443, fx: (425) 865-6721
> > email: everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> > > ----------
> > > From: Rigsbee, Everett O
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 6:37 AM
> > > To: '802 Exec'
> > > Cc: '802 @F2F Dawn S'; '802 @F2F Darcel Moro'; 'Caroline R. Armstrong';
> > 'Kesling, Dawson W'
> > > Subject: URGENT - We Need an Instantaneous Response. (That means DO IT
> > NOW !!!)
> > >
> > > Dear SEC: OK here's the pitch for the May Interim. Please response ASAP
> > !!!
> > >
> > > After some rather intensive searching of the Orlando area for a suitable
> > venue (and checking other Eastern locations as well) we've finally come up
> > with something that looks workable, but we need to make an immediate
> > decision as to how we want to go.
> > >
> > > We have found 2nd option availability at the Hyatt Orlando in Kissimmee,
> > FL (a resort property ~1.5 miles from Walt Disney World). During our week
> > of May 14-19, 2001, they can offer us up to 625 of their 922 rooms per night
> > and there's a large Radisson right nearby which could provide any necessary
> > overflow rooms and/or meeting space. The Hyatt Orlando has a good selection
> > of meeting space, all centrally located, and almost all of it is currently
> > available (only a couple of the smaller rooms are currently booked). We
> > believe there is enough space to do all the meetings for an Interim meeting
> > for all of our Working Groups. The group rate they are offering is
> > $119/129 S/D. Their pricings for Food & Beverage, Audio Visual, and
> > Miscellaneous services look to be very competitive for the area. You can
> > check out all the details of the property at their website at:
> > > http://www.hyatt.com/usa/kissimmee/hotels/hotel_mcoor.html
> > >
> > > OK, so what's this 2nd option business all about ??? This means there is
> > another group who has asked Hyatt Orlando to hold space for their function
> > during that same week, but they have not committed to sign a contract yet.
> > How it works is as follows: if we sign a 2nd option contract for the dates
> > we want, the other group is given 72 hours to either sign their contract or
> > release the space (and we're in). The probabilities are good that if we act
> > now we WILL get the space. The problem is that we have a nice gentleman
> > from Intel, (Dawson Kesling) who has offered to host an 802.3 Interim
> > meeting at the Hyatt Sacramento, who is holding space there and he is being
> > pressured to sign a contract or risk losing the space. If he loses the
> > space and the other group signs the contract at Hyatt Orlando, then we're
> > back to square zero.
> > >
> > > So I see 3 possible options for us to choose from:
> > >
> > > Option #1: We say, "Go for it!" We sign the contract for the full
> > meeting and we'll know in 72 hours whether we have a site or not. We tell
> > Dawson, "Thank you very much for your offer and we'll hope to have you host
> > a meeting in the future." If we strikeout at Hyatt Orlando, we go back and
> > look at several other back-up properties to get the deal we need (we
> > currently have several, but only 1 is in the Orlando area).
> > >
> > > Option #2: We divide the meeting. We let 802.3 go ahead and do their own
> > thing at the Hyatt Sacramento and we do everybody else at Hyatt Orlando (if
> > we can get in). We can reduce the room block to 500, we will certainly have
> > plenty of meeting space, and we won't need to worry about overflow space.
> > OK so it's not a fully co-located 802-Hosted Interim meeting, but we said
> > this was an experiment to see how it works. It probably best to start off
> > with a more manageable-sized group anyway.
> > >
> > > Option #3: We blow-off the 802-Hosted May Interim meeting completely,
> > every WG does their own thing with their own hosts, and we think about maybe
> > trying this again sometime in the future.
> > >
> > > I'm going to go out on a limb here and recommend Option #2 for your
> > consideration, since it seems to get us a trial run and we take on the least
> > risk, but the choice really belongs to the WG chairs who have to survive
> > these meetings. I also think we sho> uld weight the voting on this by the
> > size of the constituency (as recorded at Tampa) since I'm a believer in
> > 1-man, 1-vote, and we're trying to do what's right for the greatest number
> > of people here (note: this implies the vote for an SEC member with no > WG
> > would count 1). >
> > >
> > > Whatever you decide (i.e. Option #1, 2, or 3), you must send me you
> > response TODAY because we risk losing all if we don't decide right away. In
> > the unlikely event of a tie vote, I flip a coin to see who wins. Please
> > decide now !!! Later will be TOO LATE and you'll wind up with Option #3 by
> > default. You may call or send email to Dawn or myself if you have any
> > burning questions but please don't bother with suggesting other Options
> > which we have overlooked/forgotten. What you see is what you get. Tempus
> > Fugit !!!
> > >
> > > We await your response. :-)
> > >
> > > Thanx, Buzz
> > > Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> > > Boeing SSG
> > > PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> > > Seattle, WA 98124-2207
> > > ph: (425) 865-2443, fx: (425) 865-6721
> > > email: everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> > > Thanx, Buzz
> > > Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> > > Boeing SSG
> > > PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> > > Seattle, WA 98124-2207
> > > ph: (425) 865-2443, fx: (425) 865-6721
> > > email: everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> > >
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Michael Takefman
Manager HW Engineering, Cisco Systems
Chair IEEE 802.17 Stds WG
tak@cisco.com 613-271-3399
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