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RE: [802SEC] REFLECTOR SPAMMING



All,

In addition to the time delay, there is an additional time and nuisance
factor for the moderator involved.

Most of the mail-clients add a blank line before the message. The IEEE
majordomo ONLY looks in the first line for the Approve command. Hence, you
can not easily forward a message as the moderator. You first have to change
the configuration to unmoderated, then send the message (hope that nobody
slips in a message) and the to change the configuration back to moderated.

Regards
---------------
Vic Hayes
Agere Systems Nederland B.V., formerly Lucent Technologies 
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Phone: +31 30 609 7528 (Time Zone UTC + 2)
FAX: +31 30 609 7498
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> ----------
> From: 	Bob O'Hara[SMTP:bob@informed-technology.com]
> Sent: 	28 June 2001 2:30 AM
> To: 	stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> Cc: 	postoffice@ieee.org; sa-admin@ieee.org
> Subject: 	RE: [802SEC] REFLECTOR SPAMMING
> 
> 
> Ahem... I, for one do NOT want this to be a moderated list.  The time
> between a list user sending a message and me being able to approve it to
> send to the list might become excessive.
> 
>  -Bob
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org
> [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Rigsbee,
> Everett O
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 5:25 PM
> To: stuart.kerry@philips.com; Buzz@PSS; 802 Pat Thaler
> Cc: postoffice@ieee.org; sa-admin@ieee.org; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> Subject: RE: [802SEC] REFLECTOR SPAMMING
> 
> 
> 
> Pat,  It's much easier to just turn on the control that only allows people
> on the List to post to the list.  Since we control who's on the list it
> will
> effectively remove all spam.  Another option is to make the list moderated
> so that Bob O'Hara as list owner see all attempts to post to the list by
> non-members and can approve or discard before forwarding takes place.
> We don't need to engineering a lot of special filters, at least not for
> this
> list.
> 
> Thanx,  Buzz
> Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> Boeing - SSG
> PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> Seattle, WA  98324-2207
> (425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
> everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> 
> 
> > ----------
> > From: 	THALER,PAT (A-Roseville,ex1)[SMTP:pat_thaler@agilent.com]
> > Sent: 	Wednesday, June 27, 2001 1:52 PM
> > To: 	stuart.kerry@philips.com; Everett.Rigsbee@PSS.Boeing.com
> > Cc: 	postoffice@ieee.org; sa-admin@ieee.org;
> stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> > Subject: 	RE: [802SEC] REFLECTOR SPAMMING
> >
> > The IEEE reflector does have the ability to filter on various parameters
> > such as address or text in the message. Occasionally something slips
> through
> > onto the 802.3 reflector but our diligent vice-chair David Law adds
> filters
> > to the reflector so it doesn't keep happening. IEEE can help but someone
> on
> > the Exec would have to take responsibility for deciding what should be
> > filtered. That person also receives the bounced messages because
> > occasionally a legitimate message gets bounced because it contains a
> > suspicious word and someone needs to check and forward to the reflector
> the
> > incorrectly bounced messages.
> > Pat
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: stuart.kerry@philips.com [mailto:stuart.kerry@philips.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 6:12 PM
> > To: Everett.Rigsbee@PSS.Boeing.com
> > Cc: postoffice@ieee.org; sa-admin@ieee.org; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> > Subject: [802SEC] REFLECTOR SPAMMING
> > SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM (and the English amongst us will understand this...)
> > Buzz,
> > Unfortunately, this is now not only a problem restricted to the 802 Exec
> > reflector. Now it occurring on the dot 11 (stds-802-11@ieee.org) and dot
> 15
> > (stds-802-15@ieee.org) reflectors too, and can only get worse as time
> > expands. The computer generators are going through sequence after
> sequence
> > down the DNS / IP chain, and will inevitably infect us all.
> > IEEE REFLECTOR POSTOFFICE & ADMIN HELP....... NOW !!!
> > - Stuart J. Kerry
> > Chair, IEEE 802.11 WG
> > Attached is my vCard for Contact Information:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:Everett.Rigsbee@PSS.Boeing.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 14:44
> > To: 802 Exec
> > Subject: FW: Re: [802SEC] Web Hosting 100 megs for $9.95 a month !!
> > Now this is truly 100% SPAM, and once it starts, it goes on and on.
> > I still recommend we restrict this list to Post-by-Members-Only, with
> > the clearly communicated option that any 802 member who believes
> > he has a messages that needs to go to the whole SEC can send it to
> > his chair for forwarding as appropriate.  End of problem.
> > Thanx,  Buzz
> > Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> > Boeing - SSG
> > PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> > Seattle, WA  98324-2207
> > (425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
> > everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> > > ----------
> > > From: 	Hosting@yourdomain.com[SMTP:Hosting@yourdomain.com]
> > > Sent: 	Monday, June 25, 2001 4:37 PM
> > > To: 	stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> > > Subject: 	[802SEC] Web Hosting 100 megs for $9.95 a month !!
> > >
> > > This message uses a character set that is not supported by the
> Internet
> > Service.
> > > To view the original message content,  open the attached message.
> > > If the text doesn't display correctly, save the attachment to disk,
> and
> > then
> > > open it using a viewer that can display the original character set.
> > > >  <<message.txt>>
> > >
> >
> 

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