RE: [802SEC] REFLECTOR SPAMMING
Vic -
There's no need to make life quite that complex - the moderator can simply
forward the bounced message to the list under his/her own signature,
without having to mess with the list settings.
I don't see a problem with the delay aspect either - if the sender isn't an
approved member of the list & wants faster service, then they can always
request a list member to send the message on their behalf. No reason at all
why Bob (or whoever else is moderating the list) should feel the need to
offer an instant approval service.
Regards,
Tony
At 09:08 28/06/2001 +0200, Hayes, Vic (Vic) wrote:
>All,
>
>In addition to the time delay, there is an additional time and nuisance
>factor for the moderator involved.
>
>Most of the mail-clients add a blank line before the message. The IEEE
>majordomo ONLY looks in the first line for the Approve command. Hence, you
>can not easily forward a message as the moderator. You first have to change
>the configuration to unmoderated, then send the message (hope that nobody
>slips in a message) and the to change the configuration back to moderated.
>
>Regards
>---------------
>Vic Hayes
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>
> > ----------
> > From: Bob O'Hara[SMTP:bob@informed-technology.com]
> > Sent: 28 June 2001 2:30 AM
> > To: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> > Cc: postoffice@ieee.org; sa-admin@ieee.org
> > Subject: RE: [802SEC] REFLECTOR SPAMMING
> >
> >
> > Ahem... I, for one do NOT want this to be a moderated list. The time
> > between a list user sending a message and me being able to approve it to
> > send to the list might become excessive.
> >
> > -Bob
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org
> > [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Rigsbee,
> > Everett O
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 5:25 PM
> > To: stuart.kerry@philips.com; Buzz@PSS; 802 Pat Thaler
> > Cc: postoffice@ieee.org; sa-admin@ieee.org; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> > Subject: RE: [802SEC] REFLECTOR SPAMMING
> >
> >
> >
> > Pat, It's much easier to just turn on the control that only allows people
> > on the List to post to the list. Since we control who's on the list it
> > will
> > effectively remove all spam. Another option is to make the list moderated
> > so that Bob O'Hara as list owner see all attempts to post to the list by
> > non-members and can approve or discard before forwarding takes place.
> > We don't need to engineering a lot of special filters, at least not for
> > this
> > list.
> >
> > Thanx, Buzz
> > Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> > Boeing - SSG
> > PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> > Seattle, WA 98324-2207
> > (425) 865-2443 Fx: (425) 865-6721
> > everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> >
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From: THALER,PAT (A-Roseville,ex1)[SMTP:pat_thaler@agilent.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 1:52 PM
> > > To: stuart.kerry@philips.com; Everett.Rigsbee@PSS.Boeing.com
> > > Cc: postoffice@ieee.org; sa-admin@ieee.org;
> > stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> > > Subject: RE: [802SEC] REFLECTOR SPAMMING
> > >
> > > The IEEE reflector does have the ability to filter on various parameters
> > > such as address or text in the message. Occasionally something slips
> > through
> > > onto the 802.3 reflector but our diligent vice-chair David Law adds
> > filters
> > > to the reflector so it doesn't keep happening. IEEE can help but someone
> > on
> > > the Exec would have to take responsibility for deciding what should be
> > > filtered. That person also receives the bounced messages because
> > > occasionally a legitimate message gets bounced because it contains a
> > > suspicious word and someone needs to check and forward to the reflector
> > the
> > > incorrectly bounced messages.
> > > Pat
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: stuart.kerry@philips.com [mailto:stuart.kerry@philips.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 6:12 PM
> > > To: Everett.Rigsbee@PSS.Boeing.com
> > > Cc: postoffice@ieee.org; sa-admin@ieee.org; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> > > Subject: [802SEC] REFLECTOR SPAMMING
> > > SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM (and the English amongst us will understand this...)
> > > Buzz,
> > > Unfortunately, this is now not only a problem restricted to the 802 Exec
> > > reflector. Now it occurring on the dot 11 (stds-802-11@ieee.org) and dot
> > 15
> > > (stds-802-15@ieee.org) reflectors too, and can only get worse as time
> > > expands. The computer generators are going through sequence after
> > sequence
> > > down the DNS / IP chain, and will inevitably infect us all.
> > > IEEE REFLECTOR POSTOFFICE & ADMIN HELP....... NOW !!!
> > > - Stuart J. Kerry
> > > Chair, IEEE 802.11 WG
> > > Attached is my vCard for Contact Information:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:Everett.Rigsbee@PSS.Boeing.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 14:44
> > > To: 802 Exec
> > > Subject: FW: Re: [802SEC] Web Hosting 100 megs for $9.95 a month !!
> > > Now this is truly 100% SPAM, and once it starts, it goes on and on.
> > > I still recommend we restrict this list to Post-by-Members-Only, with
> > > the clearly communicated option that any 802 member who believes
> > > he has a messages that needs to go to the whole SEC can send it to
> > > his chair for forwarding as appropriate. End of problem.
> > > Thanx, Buzz
> > > Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> > > Boeing - SSG
> > > PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> > > Seattle, WA 98324-2207
> > > (425) 865-2443 Fx: (425) 865-6721
> > > everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> > > > ----------
> > > > From: Hosting@yourdomain.com[SMTP:Hosting@yourdomain.com]
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 4:37 PM
> > > > To: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> > > > Subject: [802SEC] Web Hosting 100 megs for $9.95 a month !!
> > > >
> > > > This message uses a character set that is not supported by the
> > Internet
> > > Service.
> > > > To view the original message content, open the attached message.
> > > > If the text doesn't display correctly, save the attachment to disk,
> > and
> > > then
> > > > open it using a viewer that can display the original character set.
> > > > > <<message.txt>>
> > > >
> > >
> >