RE: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM and MOTION
I vote NO for all of the aforementioned reasons.
And Jim was right, Pat is wrong; this is not just a volunteer job. After Geoff started us off
and proved it was a doable task, the job was assigned to the Recording Secretary (then
Howard Frazier) as an ongoing task. So Bob O'Hara inherited the responsibility, when
he took over from Howard.
C'mon guys, were all volunteers. I think we have an obligation to our members.
Thanx, Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing - SSG
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> From: Bob O'Hara[SMTP:bob@informed-technology.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 3:46 PM
> To: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> Subject: RE: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM and MOTION
>
> Hmmm... So Howard was a volunteer for that job? When I talked to Jim about
> the RS position, he told me that the CD-ROM was part of the job description!
> I was planning to produce it, but wanted to be sure it was something that
> the SEC wants to continue. I guess the only real way to determine that is to:
> Moved: That the production of the annual 802 Standards CD-ROM be discontinued.
> -Bob O'Hara
> -----Original Message-----
> From: THALER,PAT (A-Roseville,ex1) [mailto:pat_thaler@agilent.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 11:00 AM
> To: Rigsbee, Everett O; 802 Michael Takefman; 802 Geoff Thompson; Grow, Bob
> Cc: Bob O'Hara; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> Subject: RE: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM
> Buzz,
> As I said before, the real cost is the volunteer time. It didn't sound like
> Howard was willing to do it this time. Do we have a volunteer?
> If not, perhaps a momento in honor of the Get IEEE 802 program would be a
> suitable thank you.
> Pat
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:Everett.Rigsbee@PSS.Boeing.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:08 PM
> To: 802 Michael Takefman; 802 Geoff Thompson; Grow, Bob
> Cc: Bob O'Hara; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> Subject: RE: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM
> OK, so that's a lot less than we spend on cookies for one meeting, and clearly
> provides more in the way of lasting value. Since it's our only tangible benefit for
> paying our meeting fees, I say we should keep it until the demand drops off.
> Right now our attendees are willing to stand in line in order to get one, I think we
> should oblige that desire. It's a small "Thank-you" for all their efforts.
> Thanx, Buzz
> Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> Boeing - SSG
> PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> Seattle, WA 98324-2207
> (425) 865-2443 Fx: (425) 865-6721
> everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> > From: Grow, Bob[SMTP:bob.grow@intel.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 7:43 AM
> > To: Mike Takefman; Geoff Thompson
> > Cc: Bob O'Hara; 802sec (E-mail)
> > Subject: RE: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM
> > Last year's cost must be buried in an invoice from Face to Face. My
> > recollection is that productions costs were about $2.5k. I would expect the
> > costs to be somewhat higher this year because of increased number of members.
> > From: Mike Takefman [mailto:tak@cisco.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 11:52 AM
> > To: Geoff Thompson
> > Cc: Bob O'Hara; 802sec (E-mail)
> > Subject: Re: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM
> > Bob, et al,
> > Personally, I do not want to download stuff from GETIEEE and keep in on my
> > hard drive. I like the CD ROM and would prefer that we keep it around.
> > I will ask my members at our september meeting if they want to keep the
> > CD program alive. What is the cost of the CD program?
> > mike
> > > At 09:57 AM 8/21/01 -0700, Bob O'Hara wrote:
> > > >With the Get IEEE 802 program, is it still necessary and/or desirable to
> > > >produce the 802 standards CD-ROM each year?
> > > >Bob O'Hara
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> > Michael Takefman tak@cisco.com
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