Re: [802SEC] CD-ROM Duties
Some points of clarification:
You should not use a CD-RW for the master. You should use a CD-R.
The duplication house will make exact copies of the master, and they
have consistently told me not to use a CD-RW, but to use a CD-R
instead. I have also had trouble with cross-platform support of
CD-RWs, but never with CD-Rs.
The artwork needs to be redone each time so that you can distinguish
one CD from another easily. It would be very confusing to have a
handful of CDs all with the identical artwork (including the year
identifier). In the past, I have been asked to use a different
color artwork each year to make the different editions of the CD
easy to identify.
The license agreement that we must use also contains the year
identifier, so this has to be updated each time as well, and
we have found that it costs less and is less problematic to
use a local copy house (like Kinkos or an in-house copy shop) to
duplicate the license agreements and send them to the CDROM
duplicator for stuffing.
Howard
"Rigsbee, Everett O" wrote:
>
> Bob, You and several other SEC members keep overlooking the Get802
> mandatory
> 6 month black-out period. I would think most 802 attendees would prefer to
> have
> access to a complete copy of the latest 802 standards DURING that critical
> six
> months PLUS period between the date of Stds Bd approval and the date which
> is
> six months after the actual publication date. I certainly know I would.
>
> And yes I realize that CD-ROM productions are not always synched to major
> standards approval dates, but we have adjusted publication intervals in the
> past
> to ensure we hit the highest interest documents in a timely fashion.
>
> I would hope that we could automate the production process down to the point
> where
> all we have to do is update a PDF image or two on a CD-RW master, send it
> off and the rest
> is automatic. There is no need/reason to redo/rethink artwork, license
> agreements, etc. every
> time. That should all be standard and reused on every order. I say, KISS
> is the way
> to go, and I think our members would agree overwhelmingly.
>
> Thanx, Buzz
> Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> Boeing - SSG
> PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> Seattle, WA 98324-2207
> (425) 865-2443 Fx: (425) 865-6721
> everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> > ----------
> > From: Bob O'Hara[SMTP:bob@informed-technology.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:12 PM
> > To: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> > Subject: RE: [802SEC] CD-ROM Duties
> > My intent in starting this discussion was not to skip out on creation of
> > the
> > CD-ROM, but to determine if the CD-ROM is truly worthwhile, any longer.
> > Certainly I would not have a problem with F2F or anyone else producing the
> > disc under contract, I really have enough to do in my real job. However I
> > do believe that with big hard drives, fast internet connections, and CD-RW
> > drives, nearly everyone (not just the voting members) has the ability to
> > create their own version of the CD-ROM without the SEC getting into the
> > middle of it.
> > -Bob (too)
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org
> > [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Grow, Bob
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 1:59 PM
> > To: 'Rigsbee, Everett O'; Jim Carlo; 802 Geoff Thompson
> > Cc: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> > Subject: RE: [802SEC] CD-ROM Duties
> > I've been relatively quiet on this one, but I'll jump in here.
> > 1. I support the continuation of the CD-ROM distribution, even if the
> > cost
> > is higher than in the past.
> > 2. If volunteer time is an issue, let's buy the creation of the master as
> > well as the production. I expect Face-to-Face could provide a turn key
> > service taking submission of content from WG Chairs, build the master and
> > contract the production.
> > --Bob
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:54 AM
> > To: Jim Carlo; 802 Geoff Thompson
> > Cc: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> > Subject: RE: [802SEC] CD-ROM Duties
> > Geoff, Just for clarification, the policy states that the Executive is
> > responsible for distribution of standards
> > books and CD-ROMs. However the production of CD-ROMs was assigned to the
> > Recording Secretary but
> > this is not specifically noted in the procedure (and maybe should be to
> > avoid future confusions).
> > Thanx, Buzz
> > Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> > Boeing - SSG
> > PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> > Seattle, WA 98324-2207
> > (425) 865-2443 Fx: (425) 865-6721
> > everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> > > ----------
> > > From: Geoff Thompson[SMTP:gthompso@nortelnetworks.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 3:24 PM
> > > To: jcarlo@ti.com
> > > Cc: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> > > Subject: [802SEC] CD-ROM Duties
> > >
> > > do belong to the Executive Secretary
> > >
> > > See Procedure 6
> > >
> > > LMSC OPERATING RULES REVISED MARCH 15, 2001 PAGE 24 OF 31
> > > IEEE 802 -- 2001/01 FILE: LMRULE0301.DOC
> > > Procedure 6
> > > POLICY FOR DISTRIBUTION OF NEW IEEE LMSC STANDARDS
> > > PUBLICATIONS
> > > 1. Books will be distributed to those participants of the Working Group
> > and major contributors
> > > listed in front matter of the standard who directly contributed to that
> > standard or supplement.
> > > The LMSC Chair will establish the book distribution policy. The
> > Executive
> > Secretary in
> > > conjunction with the Working Group chair will implement the policy
> > including generating
> > > information to provide to the IEEE Office for any distribution by IEEE
> > Standards.
> > > 2. CD-ROMs, containing all IEEE 802 standards available at that point in
> > time, available
> > > normally at the July Plenary on an annual basis, will be distributed to
> > registered attendees who
> > > are Working Group voting members or SEC members at the issuing meeting,
> > and at
> > > subsequent plenary meetings for those not attending the issuing meeting
> > until a new CD-ROM
> > > is available. Handout will occur on Wednesday (8AM-5PM).
> > > The CD-ROM program will be reviewed annually by the IEEE 802 Chair and
> > the
> > IEEE
> > > Standards Department to ensure its appropriateness and to make any
> > adjustments in the
> > > product development process and business arrangements that might be
> > necessary.
> > > |================================================|
> > > | Geoffrey O. Thompson |
> > > | Chair IEEE 802.3 |
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> > >
> >