RE: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM and MOTION
Let's be careful on double negatives in motions - and whether one is for or
against. As soon as someone can send me a copy of what SEC motion was made
last time (I cannot find this in my last clean-up), then I will make the
motion. I will make it a positive motion ("Continue the CD Rom program") so
there will be no confusion.
Jim Carlo (j.carlo@ieee.org) Cellular:1-214-693-1776
Voice&Fax:1-214-853-5274
TI Fellow, Networking Standards at Texas Instruments
Vice Chair, IEEE-SA Standards Board
Chair, IEEE802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Jeffree [mailto:tony@jeffree.co.uk]
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 1:25 AM
To: jcarlo@ti.com
Cc: IEEE 802 EXEC-REFLECTOR
Subject: RE: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM and MOTION
Jim -
Looks like a motion is already on the floor.
I vote AGAINST the motion.
Regards,
Tony
At 20:51 24/08/2001 -0500, Jim Carlo wrote:
>Before I take a motion, is it possible for someone to locate the motion
that
>we (the SEC) made (it must have been several years ago) on the CD Roms. I
>cannot find this easily.
>
>Jim Carlo (j.carlo@ieee.org) Cellular:1-214-693-1776
>Voice&Fax:1-214-853-5274
>TI Fellow, Networking Standards at Texas Instruments
>Vice Chair, IEEE-SA Standards Board
>Chair, IEEE802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org
>[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Bob O'Hara
>Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 5:47 PM
>To: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
>Subject: RE: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM and MOTION
>
>
>
>Hmmm... So Howard was a volunteer for that job? When I talked to Jim about
>the RS position, he told me that the CD-ROM was part of the job
description!
>I was planning to produce it, but wanted to be sure it was something that
>the SEC wants to continue. I guess the only real way to determine that is
>to:
>
>Moved: That the production of the annual 802 Standards CD-ROM be
>discontinued.
> -Bob O'Hara
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: THALER,PAT (A-Roseville,ex1) [mailto:pat_thaler@agilent.com]
>Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 11:00 AM
>To: Rigsbee, Everett O; 802 Michael Takefman; 802 Geoff Thompson; Grow,
>Bob
>Cc: Bob O'Hara; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
>Subject: RE: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM
>
>
>Buzz,
>
>As I said before, the real cost is the volunteer time. It didn't sound like
>Howard was willing to do it this time. Do we have a volunteer?
>
>If not, perhaps a momento in honor of the Get IEEE 802 program would be a
>suitable thank you.
>
>Pat
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:Everett.Rigsbee@PSS.Boeing.com]
>Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:08 PM
>To: 802 Michael Takefman; 802 Geoff Thompson; Grow, Bob
>Cc: Bob O'Hara; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
>Subject: RE: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM
>
>
>
>OK, so that's a lot less than we spend on cookies for one meeting, and
>clearly
>provides more in the way of lasting value. Since it's our only tangible
>benefit for
>paying our meeting fees, I say we should keep it until the demand drops
off.
>
>Right now our attendees are willing to stand in line in order to get one, I
>think we
>should oblige that desire. It's a small "Thank-you" for all their efforts.
>
>Thanx, Buzz
>Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>Boeing - SSG
>PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
>Seattle, WA 98324-2207
>(425) 865-2443 Fx: (425) 865-6721
>everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> > ----------
> > From: Grow, Bob[SMTP:bob.grow@intel.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 7:43 AM
> > To: Mike Takefman; Geoff Thompson
> > Cc: Bob O'Hara; 802sec (E-mail)
> > Subject: RE: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM
> >
> > Last year's cost must be buried in an invoice from Face to Face. My
> > recollection is that productions costs were about $2.5k. I would expect
>the
> > costs to be somewhat higher this year because of increased number of
>members.
> > From: Mike Takefman [mailto:tak@cisco.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 11:52 AM
> > To: Geoff Thompson
> > Cc: Bob O'Hara; 802sec (E-mail)
> > Subject: Re: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM
> > Bob, et al,
> > Personally, I do not want to download stuff from GETIEEE and keep in on
my
>
> > hard drive. I like the CD ROM and would prefer that we keep it around.
> > I will ask my members at our september meeting if they want to keep the
> > CD program alive. What is the cost of the CD program?
> > mike
> > > At 09:57 AM 8/21/01 -0700, Bob O'Hara wrote:
> > > >With the Get IEEE 802 program, is it still necessary and/or desirable
>to
> > > >produce the 802 standards CD-ROM each year?
> > > >Bob O'Hara
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> > Michael Takefman tak@cisco.com
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