Re: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM and MOTION
This is why we put the minutes on the web. The following motion was
passed at the July, 2000 SEC meeting on monday morning.
Authorize expenditure of NTE $2000 to produce 2001 edition of CDROM
M: Thompson S: Grow
passed unanimously
Howard
Jim Carlo wrote:
>
> Let's be careful on double negatives in motions - and whether one is for or
> against. As soon as someone can send me a copy of what SEC motion was made
> last time (I cannot find this in my last clean-up), then I will make the
> motion. I will make it a positive motion ("Continue the CD Rom program") so
> there will be no confusion.
>
> Jim Carlo (j.carlo@ieee.org) Cellular:1-214-693-1776
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> TI Fellow, Networking Standards at Texas Instruments
> Vice Chair, IEEE-SA Standards Board
> Chair, IEEE802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Jeffree [mailto:tony@jeffree.co.uk]
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 1:25 AM
> To: jcarlo@ti.com
> Cc: IEEE 802 EXEC-REFLECTOR
> Subject: RE: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM and MOTION
>
> Jim -
>
> Looks like a motion is already on the floor.
>
> I vote AGAINST the motion.
>
> Regards,
> Tony
>
> At 20:51 24/08/2001 -0500, Jim Carlo wrote:
>
> >Before I take a motion, is it possible for someone to locate the motion
> that
> >we (the SEC) made (it must have been several years ago) on the CD Roms. I
> >cannot find this easily.
> >
> >Jim Carlo (j.carlo@ieee.org) Cellular:1-214-693-1776
> >Voice&Fax:1-214-853-5274
> >TI Fellow, Networking Standards at Texas Instruments
> >Vice Chair, IEEE-SA Standards Board
> >Chair, IEEE802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org
> >[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Bob O'Hara
> >Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 5:47 PM
> >To: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> >Subject: RE: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM and MOTION
> >
> >
> >
> >Hmmm... So Howard was a volunteer for that job? When I talked to Jim about
> >the RS position, he told me that the CD-ROM was part of the job
> description!
> >I was planning to produce it, but wanted to be sure it was something that
> >the SEC wants to continue. I guess the only real way to determine that is
> >to:
> >
> >Moved: That the production of the annual 802 Standards CD-ROM be
> >discontinued.
> > -Bob O'Hara
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: THALER,PAT (A-Roseville,ex1) [mailto:pat_thaler@agilent.com]
> >Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 11:00 AM
> >To: Rigsbee, Everett O; 802 Michael Takefman; 802 Geoff Thompson; Grow,
> >Bob
> >Cc: Bob O'Hara; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> >Subject: RE: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM
> >
> >
> >Buzz,
> >
> >As I said before, the real cost is the volunteer time. It didn't sound like
> >Howard was willing to do it this time. Do we have a volunteer?
> >
> >If not, perhaps a momento in honor of the Get IEEE 802 program would be a
> >suitable thank you.
> >
> >Pat
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:Everett.Rigsbee@PSS.Boeing.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:08 PM
> >To: 802 Michael Takefman; 802 Geoff Thompson; Grow, Bob
> >Cc: Bob O'Hara; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> >Subject: RE: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM
> >
> >
> >
> >OK, so that's a lot less than we spend on cookies for one meeting, and
> >clearly
> >provides more in the way of lasting value. Since it's our only tangible
> >benefit for
> >paying our meeting fees, I say we should keep it until the demand drops
> off.
> >
> >Right now our attendees are willing to stand in line in order to get one, I
> >think we
> >should oblige that desire. It's a small "Thank-you" for all their efforts.
> >
> >Thanx, Buzz
> >Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> >Boeing - SSG
> >PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> >Seattle, WA 98324-2207
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> >everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> > > ----------
> > > From: Grow, Bob[SMTP:bob.grow@intel.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 7:43 AM
> > > To: Mike Takefman; Geoff Thompson
> > > Cc: Bob O'Hara; 802sec (E-mail)
> > > Subject: RE: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM
> > >
> > > Last year's cost must be buried in an invoice from Face to Face. My
> > > recollection is that productions costs were about $2.5k. I would expect
> >the
> > > costs to be somewhat higher this year because of increased number of
> >members.
> > > From: Mike Takefman [mailto:tak@cisco.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 11:52 AM
> > > To: Geoff Thompson
> > > Cc: Bob O'Hara; 802sec (E-mail)
> > > Subject: Re: [802SEC] Standards CD-ROM
> > > Bob, et al,
> > > Personally, I do not want to download stuff from GETIEEE and keep in on
> my
> >
> > > hard drive. I like the CD ROM and would prefer that we keep it around.
> > > I will ask my members at our september meeting if they want to keep the
> > > CD program alive. What is the cost of the CD program?
> > > mike
> > > > At 09:57 AM 8/21/01 -0700, Bob O'Hara wrote:
> > > > >With the Get IEEE 802 program, is it still necessary and/or desirable
> >to
> > > > >produce the 802 standards CD-ROM each year?
> > > > >Bob O'Hara
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