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RE: [802SEC] RE: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee' web pag e


I am inclined to agree with Mark ... listing all
meetings in a single place is simpler and makes
planning (and website maintenance) easier.

Regards,
Carl


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Klerer [mailto:M.Klerer@flarion.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:09 AM
> To: 'stuart@ok-brit.com'; '802 Exec'
> Cc: tslykhouse@yahoo.com; 'Dawn Slykhouse'; billq@attglobal.net; '802
> Bob O'Hara'; 'Geoff Thompson'; 'Grow, Bob'; 'Rigsbee, Everett 
> O'; 'David
> Law'
> Subject: RE: [802SEC] RE: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee' web
> pag e
> 
> 
> 
> I agree to the uniform format. I would only suggest that the 
> URL instead of
> http://www.ieee802.org/X/interims/index.html become
> http://www.ieee802.org/X/meetings my experience shows that 
> most websites
> have been maintainign plenary and interim meeting information 
> in a unified
> manner. I believe this is more convenient for users planning 
> attendance and
> travel.
> 
> Mark Klerer
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stuart J. Kerry [mailto:stuart@ok-brit.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 1:42 PM
> To: '802 Exec'
> Cc: tslykhouse@yahoo.com; 'Dawn Slykhouse'; 
> billq@attglobal.net; '802 Bob
> O'Hara'; 'Geoff Thompson'; 'Grow, Bob'; 'Rigsbee, Everett O'; 
> 'David Law'
> Subject: RE: [802SEC] RE: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards 
> Committee' web page
> 
> 
> In agreement with Bob's comment. 
> 
> Full support for this from me too.
> 
> / Stuart
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________
> 
> Stuart J. Kerry
> Chair, IEEE 802.11 WLANs WG
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org
> [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Grow, Bob
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 19:55
> To: Rigsbee, Everett O; David Law; 802 Exec
> Cc: tslykhouse@yahoo.com; Dawn Slykhouse; billq@attglobal.net; 802 Bob
> O'Hara; Grow, Bob; Geoff Thompson
> Subject: [802SEC] RE: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards 
> Committee' web page
> 
> 
> 
> This SEC member supports it.  We don't need the 802 web master chasing
> people for updates.  To have a single update for the meetings helps
> everyone.  To keep the URL constant is a reasonable constraint on web
> design.
> 
> --Bob
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 1:37 PM
> To: David Law; 802 Exec
> Cc: tslykhouse@yahoo.com; Dawn Slykhouse; billq@attglobal.net; 802 Bob
> O'Hara; Bob.Grow@intel.com; Geoff Thompson
> Subject: RE: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee' web page
> 
> 
> David,  This sounds very reasonable to me.  Let's see what the SEC
> thinks about your proposal.  
> 
> Thanx,  Buzz
> Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> Boeing - SSG
> PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> Seattle, WA  98324-2207
> (425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
> everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Law [mailto:David_Law@eur.3com.com] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:42 AM
> To: Rigsbee, Everett O
> Cc: 'tslykhouse@yahoo.com'; Dawn Slykhouse; Bill Quackenbush
> (billq@attglobal.net); 802 Bob O'Hara; Bob.Grow@intel.com; Geoff
> Thompson
> Subject: RE: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee' web page
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Buzz,
> 
> Can I suggest that each Working Group and Executive Committee Study
> Group has a 'Interims' page that lists their upcoming interims at a
> fixed location such as:-
> 
> http://www.ieee802.org/X/interims/index.html
> 
> where X is the 'dot' number or ECSG designation. For example 802.3's
> page would be at the URL :-
> 
> http://www.ieee802.org/3/interims/index.html
> 
> and the Link Security ECSG would be at:
> 
> http://www.ieee802.org/linksec/interims/index.html
> 
> These pages would be the responsibility of the respective 
> Working Groups
> / Executive Committee Study Groups to maintain with up to date interim
> information or just a statement that the next time the group will meet
> is the upcoming plenary meeting. The 802 page
> [http://www.ieee802.org/meeting/index.html ] would then 
> simply provide a
> link to each Working Groups Interims meeting page, this page 
> would then
> look like something:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                       IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee
> 
> o March 2003            Plenary Meeting Information (PDF)
> Updated 03
>  Dec 2002
> o March 2003            Plenary Meeting Information (HTML)
> Updated 03
>  Dec 2002
> o Future Meetings       Future Plenary Meeting Schedule (HTML)
> Updated 15
>  Nov 2002
> 
> o Upcoming Interim meetings
> 
>    o IEEE 802.1 Interim Meetings
>    o IEEE 802.3 Interim Meetings
>    o IEEE 802.  ..........
>    o IEEE 802.20 Interim Meetings
>    o IEEE 802 Link Security Executive Committee Study Group Interim
> Meetings
> 
> 
> 
> This would finally de-couple the 802 page from the Working Group
> Interim's meeting pages. The 802 page then would only need updated for
> plenary information which to me is the right way to do this. 
> For example
> there is still a link there at the moment that reads 'January 2003 -
> IEEE 802.1/.3 Interim Meeting Updated -12 Dec 2002' that 
> actually takes
> you to the notice for the 802.3 January Mipitas and February Raleigh
> meetings, neither of which involve 802.1. If there was simply just a
> link to the 802.1 and 802.3 Interims page this issue shouldn't occur.
> 
> Thanks very much,
>   David
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Rigsbee, Everett O" <everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com> on 15/01/2003
> 01:10:16
> 
> Sent by:  "Rigsbee, Everett O" <everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com>
> 
> 
> To:   "'tslykhouse @yahoo.com'" <tslykhouse@yahoo.com>
> cc:   David Law/GB/3Com@3Com, Dawn Slykhouse
> <dawns@facetoface-events.com>,
>       "Bill Quackenbush , "802 Bob O'Hara" <bob@bstormnetworks.com>
> Subject:  RE: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee' web page
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Tom,  I think it would be a very good idea to produce a written
> description of what exactly is going to be done and how each WG could
> make use of the general facility for tracking Interim Meeting
> Information.  I would circulate the document to the SEC for comment
> before proceeding with the implementation.  If we are going 
> to create a
> standard facility, we should make sure we have consensus on the plan
> first.
> 
> PS: If you're just talking about fixing David's Link for now, 
> that's OK
> too; but we definitely do need a standard way to do this that 
> minimizes
> the number of time we have to update the "Meetings" page.
> 
> Thanx,  Buzz
> Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> Boeing - SSG
> PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> Seattle, WA  98324-2207
> (425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
> everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Slykhouse [mailto:tslykhouse@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 3:17 PM
> To: Rigsbee, Everett O
> Cc: David_Law@eur.3com.com; Dawn Slykhouse
> Subject: FW: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee' web page
> Importance: High
> 
> Hi Buzz,
> 
> Dawn asked me to make sure you don't have any problem with David's
> request, before I implement it.
> 
> -Tom
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Law [mailto:David_Law@eur.3com.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:40 AM
> To: webmaster@facetoface-events.com
> Cc: Bob.Grow@intel.com; njarvis@cisco.com
> Subject: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee' web page
> 
> Hi Facetoface webmaster,
> 
> Please note that the link on the above web page [
> http://www.ieee802.org/meeting/index.html ] marked 'January 2003 IEEE
> 802.1/.3 Interim Meeting' is in fact a link to the IEEE 802.3 Interims
> web page and while we endeavor to meet jointly with 802.1 wherever
> possible this is not always the case. In addition, 802.3 holds more
> Interim meetings than 802.1, for example we have 802.3 only meetings
> January 28th through 31th in Santa Clara and February 17th & 18th in
> Research Triangle Park NC. I have therefore CCed Neil Jarvis, 
> the 802.1
> Web master, as he may be able to give you a permanent link on 
> their web
> site to link to that is a similar page to the 802.3 Interims 
> web page [
> http://www.ieee802.org/3/interims/index.html ].
> 
> Please also note that the URL referenced [
> http://www.ieee802.org/3/interims/index.html ] is a fixed URL that is
> continuously updated with the future IEEE P802.3 Interim meetings
> therefore the URL does not need changed and the link should not be
> marked with any particular date - if not it will need changed for each
> of the 802.3 Interims that we hold which could be a lot of effort and
> simply duplicates the work already done for the 802.3 page. Hence the
> text beside the link to the 802.3 Interims web page should simply read
> 'Future IEEE 802.3 Interim meetings' or something similar.
> 
> Thanks very much for your help.
> 
> Best regards,
>   David Law
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