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RE: [802SEC] RE: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee' web page


I agree to the uniform format. I would only suggest that the URL instead of
http://www.ieee802.org/X/interims/index.html become
http://www.ieee802.org/X/meetings my experience shows that most websites
have been maintainign plenary and interim meeting information in a unified
manner. I believe this is more convenient for users planning attendance and
travel.

Mark Klerer

-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart J. Kerry [mailto:stuart@ok-brit.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 1:42 PM
To: '802 Exec'
Cc: tslykhouse@yahoo.com; 'Dawn Slykhouse'; billq@attglobal.net; '802 Bob
O'Hara'; 'Geoff Thompson'; 'Grow, Bob'; 'Rigsbee, Everett O'; 'David Law'
Subject: RE: [802SEC] RE: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee' web page


In agreement with Bob's comment. 

Full support for this from me too.

/ Stuart




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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Grow, Bob
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 19:55
To: Rigsbee, Everett O; David Law; 802 Exec
Cc: tslykhouse@yahoo.com; Dawn Slykhouse; billq@attglobal.net; 802 Bob
O'Hara; Grow, Bob; Geoff Thompson
Subject: [802SEC] RE: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee' web page



This SEC member supports it.  We don't need the 802 web master chasing
people for updates.  To have a single update for the meetings helps
everyone.  To keep the URL constant is a reasonable constraint on web
design.

--Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 1:37 PM
To: David Law; 802 Exec
Cc: tslykhouse@yahoo.com; Dawn Slykhouse; billq@attglobal.net; 802 Bob
O'Hara; Bob.Grow@intel.com; Geoff Thompson
Subject: RE: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee' web page


David,  This sounds very reasonable to me.  Let's see what the SEC
thinks about your proposal.  

Thanx,  Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing - SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA  98324-2207
(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com


-----Original Message-----
From: David Law [mailto:David_Law@eur.3com.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:42 AM
To: Rigsbee, Everett O
Cc: 'tslykhouse@yahoo.com'; Dawn Slykhouse; Bill Quackenbush
(billq@attglobal.net); 802 Bob O'Hara; Bob.Grow@intel.com; Geoff
Thompson
Subject: RE: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee' web page



Hi Buzz,

Can I suggest that each Working Group and Executive Committee Study
Group has a 'Interims' page that lists their upcoming interims at a
fixed location such as:-

http://www.ieee802.org/X/interims/index.html

where X is the 'dot' number or ECSG designation. For example 802.3's
page would be at the URL :-

http://www.ieee802.org/3/interims/index.html

and the Link Security ECSG would be at:

http://www.ieee802.org/linksec/interims/index.html

These pages would be the responsibility of the respective Working Groups
/ Executive Committee Study Groups to maintain with up to date interim
information or just a statement that the next time the group will meet
is the upcoming plenary meeting. The 802 page
[http://www.ieee802.org/meeting/index.html ] would then simply provide a
link to each Working Groups Interims meeting page, this page would then
look like something:




                      IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee

o March 2003            Plenary Meeting Information (PDF)
Updated 03
 Dec 2002
o March 2003            Plenary Meeting Information (HTML)
Updated 03
 Dec 2002
o Future Meetings       Future Plenary Meeting Schedule (HTML)
Updated 15
 Nov 2002

o Upcoming Interim meetings

   o IEEE 802.1 Interim Meetings
   o IEEE 802.3 Interim Meetings
   o IEEE 802.  ..........
   o IEEE 802.20 Interim Meetings
   o IEEE 802 Link Security Executive Committee Study Group Interim
Meetings



This would finally de-couple the 802 page from the Working Group
Interim's meeting pages. The 802 page then would only need updated for
plenary information which to me is the right way to do this. For example
there is still a link there at the moment that reads 'January 2003 -
IEEE 802.1/.3 Interim Meeting Updated -12 Dec 2002' that actually takes
you to the notice for the 802.3 January Mipitas and February Raleigh
meetings, neither of which involve 802.1. If there was simply just a
link to the 802.1 and 802.3 Interims page this issue shouldn't occur.

Thanks very much,
  David







"Rigsbee, Everett O" <everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com> on 15/01/2003
01:10:16

Sent by:  "Rigsbee, Everett O" <everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com>


To:   "'tslykhouse @yahoo.com'" <tslykhouse@yahoo.com>
cc:   David Law/GB/3Com@3Com, Dawn Slykhouse
<dawns@facetoface-events.com>,
      "Bill Quackenbush , "802 Bob O'Hara" <bob@bstormnetworks.com>
Subject:  RE: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee' web page




Tom,  I think it would be a very good idea to produce a written
description of what exactly is going to be done and how each WG could
make use of the general facility for tracking Interim Meeting
Information.  I would circulate the document to the SEC for comment
before proceeding with the implementation.  If we are going to create a
standard facility, we should make sure we have consensus on the plan
first.

PS: If you're just talking about fixing David's Link for now, that's OK
too; but we definitely do need a standard way to do this that minimizes
the number of time we have to update the "Meetings" page.

Thanx,  Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing - SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA  98324-2207
(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Slykhouse [mailto:tslykhouse@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 3:17 PM
To: Rigsbee, Everett O
Cc: David_Law@eur.3com.com; Dawn Slykhouse
Subject: FW: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee' web page
Importance: High

Hi Buzz,

Dawn asked me to make sure you don't have any problem with David's
request, before I implement it.

-Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: David Law [mailto:David_Law@eur.3com.com]
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:40 AM
To: webmaster@facetoface-events.com
Cc: Bob.Grow@intel.com; njarvis@cisco.com
Subject: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee' web page

Hi Facetoface webmaster,

Please note that the link on the above web page [
http://www.ieee802.org/meeting/index.html ] marked 'January 2003 IEEE
802.1/.3 Interim Meeting' is in fact a link to the IEEE 802.3 Interims
web page and while we endeavor to meet jointly with 802.1 wherever
possible this is not always the case. In addition, 802.3 holds more
Interim meetings than 802.1, for example we have 802.3 only meetings
January 28th through 31th in Santa Clara and February 17th & 18th in
Research Triangle Park NC. I have therefore CCed Neil Jarvis, the 802.1
Web master, as he may be able to give you a permanent link on their web
site to link to that is a similar page to the 802.3 Interims web page [
http://www.ieee802.org/3/interims/index.html ].

Please also note that the URL referenced [
http://www.ieee802.org/3/interims/index.html ] is a fixed URL that is
continuously updated with the future IEEE P802.3 Interim meetings
therefore the URL does not need changed and the link should not be
marked with any particular date - if not it will need changed for each
of the 802.3 Interims that we hold which could be a lot of effort and
simply duplicates the work already done for the 802.3 page. Hence the
text beside the link to the 802.3 Interims web page should simply read
'Future IEEE 802.3 Interim meetings' or something similar.

Thanks very much for your help.

Best regards,
  David Law