RE: [802SEC] Deadbeat rule change proposal
Frankly, I have lost track of the debate on this issue and the
proposed
changes (or not) ...
However, my view is that deadbeats at interims should be
"dinged"
just
as severely as deadbeats at plenaries ...
How we
accomplish that in the rules is a matter for consideration,
but I
think that deadbeats at interims should also lose voting
rights.
Carl
Buzz-
My point here is that the current
situation is:
- Plenaries and the operation of 802 are current funded, by practice and
rule, by the fees that participants pay to attend plenaries.
- Interims are funded by means other than tapping the 802 treasury (with
the exception of use of 802 capital equipment)
I find no
mandate to change that situation in the project that Bill has taken on to
tighten up the wording on deadbeats.
I have no desire to change the
current situation in that regard, actually more than that. I am opposed to
changing the (1+n) approach to a single pot
approach.
Geoff
At 02:32 PM 3/4/2003 -0800, Rigsbee, Everett
O wrote:
Geoff, I think in this context that
Bill is referring to 802-hosted interim meetings (such as the January
802.3/.1 meeting). In this case the Treasurer does collect the fees on
behalf of IEEE 802. Non-802-hosted interims would be the exception to
this rule.
Thanx,
Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz)
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-----Original
Message-----
From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:gthompso@nortelnetworks.com]
Sent:
Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:46 AM
To: Bill
Quackenbush
Cc: IEEE 802 SEC
Subject: Re: [802SEC]
Deadbeat rule change proposal
Bill-
I have some
general problems with your proposal.
RE the original form of the
phrase:
The LMSC Treasurer may collect fees from all attendees of any
meeting held in conjunction with the
a Plenary
or
Interim session to cover the
expenses of operating the LAN MAN Standards Committee.
...probably needs
to be updated from "may" to "shall".
Either way, I don't think the
modification for interims belongs here in the current context.
It is
not the job of the LMSC Treasurer to collect fees from an Interim session to
cover the expenses of operating the LAN MAN Standards
Committee.
Rather, LMSC Treasurer through the conference organizer
may collect fees from all attendees of an interim meeting to cover the
expenses of the interim meeting.
If we go with the currently proposed
text then we are signing up for all sorts of grief about whose interims are
supporting plenary operation and whose are not.
Also, I am a little
unhappy about a policy that is so completely rigid and has no provision for
input from the affected WG Chair.
Geoff
At 04:35 PM
3/3/2003 -0800, Bill Quackenbush wrote:
All,
Attached is my
first draft of the proposed deadbeat rule changes.
I have put the new
material in a new section so that it applies equally
to any LMSC
standards development group meeting.
Your comments are
encouraged.
Thanks,
wlq