Bill, Buzz,
I find I agree with Geoff on this. 802.11/15/18/19/20
have had joint meetings, which even when sponsored, were funded via attendance
fees to these joint sessions. This approach works well and does not pit
individual WGs against each other in vying for funds from a centralized treasury.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Thompson
[mailto:gthompso@nortelnetworks.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003
12:41 PM
To: Rigsbee, Everett O
Cc: Geoff Thompson; Bill
Quackenbush; IEEE 802 SEC
Subject: RE: [802SEC] Deadbeat
rule change proposal
Buzz-
My point here is that the current situation is:
Plenaries
and the operation of 802 are current funded, by practice and rule, by the fees
that participants pay to attend plenaries.
Interims
are funded by means other than tapping the 802 treasury (with the exception of
use of 802 capital equipment)
I find no mandate to change that situation in the
project that Bill has taken on to tighten up the wording on deadbeats.
I have no desire to change the current situation in that regard, actually more
than that. I am opposed to changing the (1+n) approach to a single pot
approach.
Geoff
At 02:32 PM 3/4/2003 -0800, Rigsbee, Everett O wrote:
Geoff, I think in
this context that Bill is referring to 802-hosted interim meetings (such as the
January 802.3/.1 meeting). In this case the Treasurer does collect the
fees on behalf of IEEE 802. Non-802-hosted interims would be the
exception to this rule.
Thanx, Buzz
Dr. Everett O.
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-----Original
Message-----
From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:gthompso@nortelnetworks.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:46
AM
To: Bill Quackenbush
Cc: IEEE 802 SEC
Subject: Re: [802SEC] Deadbeat
rule change proposal
Bill-
I have some general problems with your proposal.
RE the original form of the phrase:
The LMSC Treasurer may collect fees from all attendees of any meeting held in
conjunction with the
a Plenary or Interim session to
cover the expenses of operating the LAN MAN Standards Committee.
...probably needs to be updated from "may" to "shall".
Either way, I don't think the modification for interims belongs here in the
current context.
It is not the job of the LMSC Treasurer to collect fees from an Interim session
to cover the expenses of operating the LAN MAN Standards Committee.
Rather, LMSC Treasurer through the conference organizer may collect fees from all
attendees of an interim meeting to cover the expenses of the interim meeting.
If we go with the currently proposed text then we are signing up for all sorts
of grief about whose interims are supporting plenary operation and whose are
not.
Also, I am a little unhappy about a policy that is so completely rigid and has
no provision for input from the affected WG Chair.
Geoff
At 04:35 PM 3/3/2003 -0800, Bill Quackenbush wrote:
All,
Attached is my first draft of the proposed deadbeat rule changes.
I have put the new material in a new section so that it applies equally
to any LMSC standards development group meeting.
Your comments are encouraged.
Thanks,
wlq