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Re: [802SEC] Jon's Straw Poll Request

Hi Andrew,

Sorry but your conclusion is incorrect.  The question did not ask an opinion on when people desired the next meeting, nor when they thought that they would be able to attend a face to face meeting. It asked an opinion on "expectation" of when there would BE the first face to face meeting.  That doesn't mean a respondent would not attend a meeting earlier, but that they don't expect that there will be one. 

It isn't valid to conclude anything beyond the question asked.  For example, in another WG we asked a second question, to give an opinion the earliest date that the respondent thought you WOULD attend a face to face meeting.  The results were different, as the question is different.  The second question is a more useful basis for speculation upon when people might attend.  

I also note that the "no answer" was the most popular option. Does that mean that we should not hold the next meeting ever, as the majority don't know when it will occur?  Of course not.

No valid conclusions can be reached from the straw poll as worded. 

FWIW we might as well be accurate. 


On 11/12/2020 5:46 PM, Andrew Myles (amyles) wrote:

G’day all


I plotted all the data, see attached Excel


It suggests the next meeting (based on current opinions) should not be held until Sept/Nov 2021




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Subject: [802SEC] Jon's Straw Poll Request




802.15 did two straw polls: yours and the one from George:


Straw Polls

Straw Poll #1

When do you expect the next in person 802.15 Session will be?

A.   March 2021                 4          8%      

B.    May 2021                    1          2%

C.    July 2021                    8          16%

D.   Sept 2021                    10        20%

E.    November 2021          10        20%

F.    after 2021                    6          12%

G.   No Answer                  5          10%

Did not respond          6          12%

Total Participants     50       


Straw Poll #2:

Based upon your affiliation’s and other restrictions, as well as your personal comfort level, when is the earliest you expect to be able to attend an 802.x face-to-face meeting?

A.   March 2021                 5          10%

B.    May 2021                    3          6%

C.    July 2021                    6          12%

D.   Sept 2021                    8          16%

E.    November 2021          11        22%

F.    after 2021                    12        24%

G.   No Answer                  3          6%

Did not respond          3          6%

Total Participants     51       

Sincerely,  Pat

Pat Kinney
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