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We can have all sorts of fun discussions about how to interpret the questions. What we can safely say is that various people have interpreted them in a variety of way.
Your interpretation that “It asked an opinion on "expectation" of when there would BE the first face to face meeting. That doesn't mean a respondent would not attend a meeting earlier, but that they don't expect that there will be one” is reasonable. Others have sent me other slightly different interpretations of the question that are just as reasonable.
For sake of argument, let’s accept your interpretation as correct. Personally, my expectation of when the first face to face meeting will be held is based on when I believe the 802 leadership will schedule such a meeting. I assume that the 802 leadership will make a reasonable decision based on the best interests of 802 members including factors such as:
The 802 leadership decision will also probably include consideration of the cost to 802 of cancellation. However, I am going to ignore this factor for reasons previously explained.
Based on the assumption of a reasonable decision of the 802 leadership, the "expectation" of “when there would be the first face to face meeting” is roughly the same as when there should be the first face to face meeting from the individuals perspective (unless you believe the 802 leadership are irrational 😉). On this basis, my interpretation of the results of the of the straw poll is quite reasonable, and certainly possibly correct. It suggests a reasonable consensus expectation that no F2F meetings would/should be held until Sept/Nov 2021, based on what we know today. In addition, I would note that the different questions asked of the various WGs, regardless of how you interpret them, are all consistent in that they all indicate a consensus expectation that no F2F meetings would/should be held until Sept/Nov 2021.
As I also noted, we do not need to make any decision today based on these straw polls. We only need to make a decision when there is a significant change to 802 financial liability. My suggestion would be to treat the straw poll results as interesting, but renew the evaluation at an appropriate time.
Sorry but your conclusion is incorrect. The question did not ask an opinion on when people desired the next meeting, nor when they thought that they would be able to attend a face to face meeting. It asked an opinion on "expectation" of when there would BE the first face to face meeting. That doesn't mean a respondent would not attend a meeting earlier, but that they don't expect that there will be one.
It isn't valid to conclude anything beyond the question asked. For example, in another WG we asked a second question, to give an opinion the earliest date that the respondent thought you WOULD attend a face to face meeting. The results were different, as the question is different. The second question is a more useful basis for speculation upon when people might attend.
I also note that the "no answer" was the most popular option. Does that mean that we should not hold the next meeting ever, as the majority don't know when it will occur? Of course not.
No valid conclusions can be reached from the straw poll as worded.
FWIW we might as well be accurate.
On 11/12/2020 5:46 PM, Andrew Myles (amyles) wrote:
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