Gerald:
If we want to all end up on the same page, we have to start on the
same
page. If we all have different opinions of what comprises a control
channel, how can we decide if it should be wired or wireless? There
are
a lot more traps where that one came from if we don't have a set of
terms that we all agree on.
Rich Kennedy
Standards Manager
Research In Motion
+1 (972) 207-3554
rikennedy@xxxxxxx
IEEE 802.11 to 802.18 Liaison
IEEE 802.11 Regulatory Ad Hoc Committee Chair
Wi-Fi Alliance Regulatory Task Group Chair
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Chouinard [mailto:gerald.chouinard@xxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 3:33 PM
To: Richard Kennedy
Cc: STDS-802-19@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [802.19] TVWS Control Channel Straw Poll
Rich,
I agree. I am also not too comfortable with the term "control
channel". It should really be a means of exchanging information
between
TVBD devices, either through the backhaul or over the RF medium to
help
coexistence but not a channel where an entity of some sort would
control
the use of the RF medium by the TVBDs. We need a bit more
discussion on
this before a meaningful straw poll.
Gerald
At 14:19 2009.08.10, Richard Kennedy wrote:
We can discuss this on the call, but when I hear the term Control
Channel, as I have seen in at least one presentation, I think a
separate
channel for control purposes only. If there is an Internet
connection
as part of the network, what is the need for a separate channel for
control?
If the Internet connection can be considered the Control Channel,
then
why a separate channel for control?
Maybe we first need a definition of terms. That way we are all
voting
on the same thing. Anyone wanting a separate Control Channel could
look
at this poll and say it looks like everyone wants a separate control
channel, which I don't think is the case.
Rich Kennedy
Standards Manager
Research In Motion
+1 (972) 207-3554
rikennedy@xxxxxxx
IEEE 802.11 to 802.18 Liaison
IEEE 802.11 Regulatory Ad Hoc Committee Chair
Wi-Fi Alliance Regulatory Task Group Chair
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Chouinard [mailto:gerald.chouinard@xxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 1:09 PM
To: Richard Kennedy; STDS-802-19@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [802.19] TVWS Control Channel Straw Poll
Rich,
I guess we need more information on the "No control channel " option
and
how this can meet the database/sensing requirements of the FCC R&O
08-260. The assumption is that if database access and/or sensing is
needed
for protecting broadcast incumbents, the same means could be used for
coexistence. The "No control channel" option would tend to indicated
that
such means to protect the broadcast incumbents would not be available
implemented. Can you clarify what you have in mind?
Once this is clarified, then Steve could possibly initiate a new
straw
poll.
Gerald
At 13:43 2009.08.10, Richard Kennedy wrote:
How many for No Control Channel ?
Rich Kennedy
Standards Manager
Research In Motion
+1 (972) 207-3554
rikennedy@xxxxxxx
IEEE 802.11 to 802.18 Liaison
IEEE 802.11 Regulatory Ad Hoc Committee Chair
Wi-Fi Alliance Regulatory Task Group Chair
From: Shellhammer, Steve [mailto:sshellha@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:27 PM
To: STDS-802-19@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [802.19] TVWS Control Channel Straw Poll
We have the following results so far,
Over what physical link should the TVWS control channel operate?
Backhaul Only
3
Wireless Only
2
Both
30
It seems that both is winning by a landslide!
Steve
From: Shellhammer, Steve [mailto:sshellha@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 2:02 PM
To: STDS-802-19@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [802.19] TVWS Control Channel Straw Poll
All,
I have updated the TVWS Control Channel straw poll.
You
can specify: backhaul only, wireless only, or both.
<http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?
sm=RPevuJvxGAG59HpNs7OvYQ_3d_3d>htt
p://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=RPevuJvxGAG59HpNs7OvYQ_3d_3d
Please fill it out and we will discuss on Tuesday.
Steve
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