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Hi Kaiying,
Can’t dot11NSTRSoftAPMLDActivated be expressed like
(dot11SoftAPMLDActivated set to true) * (dot11StrMld set to false)?
I think a non-STR soft AP is a subset of soft APs.
And I feel strange to express non-STR capability being activated. It’s not intentional, but it’s being like that as a result.
Furthermore, shouldn’t the relation between the links be focused rather than the device?
I haven’t sorted out my mind yet, but something like, a MLD (potentially?) having at least one pair of links in non-STR and acting as an soft AP will be non-STR
soft AP. Best regards, tomo From: Kaiying Lu <Kaiying.Lu@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Hi Zhiqiang, Good question! Even though an AP MLD might be is in the same physical device as a non-AP MLD and share the same RF chains, but it might not be capable or activated
as a soft AP MLD. Since it is hard to define the soft AP MLD based on its functionality, we tried to define it based on its capability. Here is another example in baseline spec: fast initial link setup (FILS) station (STA): A station that implements fast initial link setup (FILS) and for which dot11FILSActivated is true. Please let me know if you have further comments. Thanks, Kaiying From:
han.zhiqiang1@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:han.zhiqiang1@xxxxxxxxxx]
Hi, Kaiying, Thanks for initiating the discussion. I have a question about the definition. Why to use dot11SoftAPMLDActivated and dot11NSTRSoftAPMLDActivated to describe the definition? The definition should be a description of the features. Whether a device has this capability is another case. Thanks. Best Regards,
Zhiqiang Han
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：Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] PDT-MLO-Soft-AP-MLD Hi all, Please review 1407r7 for the updated text. Thanks, Kaiying From:
Kaiying Lu Hi all, Thanks for all the comments. I changed the definition part as follows based on the comments. Soft access point (AP) multi-link device (MLD):
An AP MLD with dot11SoftAPMLDActivated set to true that is in the same physical device as a non-AP MLD, with APs affiliated with the AP MLD using the same antenna connectors as non-AP STAs affiliated with the non-AP MLD. Non-STR soft access point (AP) multi-link device (MLD):A soft AP MLD with dot11NSTRSoftAPMLDActivated set to true that has at least one non-STR link pair. Here below are some responses to the commenters’ comments and questions: Laurent Cariou Intel to everyone: I’m not sure the definition of collocated assumes they are active. Doesn’t it just says that they are in the same physical device. If we want instead of saying collocated, we can say they are in the
same physical device.[KY] yes, agree. I will use “the same physical device” Liwen Chu NXP to everyone: an AP MLD that is battery-powered AP MLD?
[KY] The key point is to share the same RF chains. So I will remove the sentence about physical limitations. Ming GanHuawei to everyone: the definition of collocated allows they are active simultaneously.[KY] remove “co-located set” Rojan Chitrakar Panasonic to everyone: In defintion the non-STR should be in full form, not acronym[KY] done. Chunyu Hu FB to everyone: my question/doubt is also on this using collocated def.[KY] remove “co-located set” Chunyu Hu FB to everyone: another question or suggestion is that, can we focus on the NSTR aspect and leave the other constraints (not in the presentation
for the motion either) out of MLD context in current disucssion?[KY] In soft AP MLD definition, he key point is to share the same RF chains. So I will remove the sentence about physical limitations. But in non-STR Soft AP MLD definition,
I focus on non-STR constraints. Hanseul Hong WILUS to everyone: I think your intention of "battery powered" is the constraints of "power consumption"[KY] The key
point is to share the same RF chains. So I will remove the sentence about physical limitations. Thomas Derham to everyone: Mobile AP is not allowed at all under current FCC rules Unless that device uses AFC. VLP operation for soft ap is currently under
FNPRM, but power limit will be lower than LPI. [KY] Let’s focus on “sharing the same RF chains” in the definition part. So remove the sentence about physical limitations. Please let me know if you have further comments. Thanks, Kaiying *********** MEDIATEK Confidentiality Notice ***********
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