Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBH] 24/0898r5

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Yes, but that seems OK

Please see attached. I have made a few edits, which I think are necessary.

Please look at my changes and hopefully post as r6.

Thanks

Graham

From: Okan Mutgan (Nokia) <okan.mutgan@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: RE: 24/0898r5

Hi Graham,

For that, I believe that we need IRM support in RSNXE in Assoc Req/Resp, no?

BR,

Okan

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Hi Okan,

Thanks for posting.

I spotted just one error. In Figure AX-7 in the bottom exchange 4-way HS M4, you need to add (IRM(IRM3))

Thanks

Graham

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Subject: RE: [STDS-802-11-TGBH] TGbh D4.0 Example Texts and Figures

Hi,

@Graham, thanks for the figures.

@Yan Li,

Fixed.
Fixed (using round brackets always to keep it simple)
We need EAP or 4W HS in initial connection in FILS. When returning, no EAP or 4W HS is needed (the figure seems to be correct)
Done.
Done.

I will upload the document and talk about it today.

Thanks!

BR,

Okan

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Excellent. Thanks Li Yan. I admit I concentrated on getting the device ID + PASN ID right (and compatible with your proposal) and did not pay too much attention to the rest of the diagrams.

So it’s great that you did!

Okan,

Are you OK with making these changes? As you know we have only today to get this sorted. I think we are good with Li Yan’s proposal, so we just need your Annex to be good to go.

Thanks

Graham

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Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBH] TGbh D4.0 Example Texts and Figures

Hi Graham and Okan,

I find some minor issues about the figures attached:

1. a typo for Asociation（should be Association）in figure 1 and 4

2. some editorial issues about brackets, please keep the round and square brackets matched

3. In figure 2(DevID FILS), i think we don't need EAP or 4-HS if FILS used, given that FILS authen/assoc frame exchange has already established PTKSA(see P3097L10 REVME_D4.2)

4. In figure 3, you may ignore to remove PASN ID support in the beacon/probe response transmitted from AP-2(i see the frame from AP-1 is correct)

5. I'm confused about the introduction of the content of 'initial connection' in figure 1 and 3. In figure 1, initial connection is 4-HS, so it's correct to say No device ID. But in figure 3, initial connection is PASN authen. In my opinion, it's enough to say No PASN ID. Please remove the phrase ‘No device ID’

Best Regards！

李炎 Li Yan

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Date: 2024年06月20日 03:41

Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBH] TGbh D4.0 Example Texts and Figures

Hi Okan,

Here attached are the “corrected” figures for Device ID and the joint IRM/Device ID.

The IRM figures are correct and I have not touched them.

These figures now comply with the device ID/PASN ID proposal as per 24/0789r7. (I have sent edits on this document to Li Yan)

All that remains is make the text agree with the figures :>) Hopefully that should not be difficult.

I was confused by the last figure as it jumped form 4w HS to PASN and back. I simply made it a combined 4w HS example. I don’t think we need to mix PASN as well. If doing PASN, and using IRM I can’t think of any possible reason why a STA would also try to use PASN ID.

Thanks

Graham

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Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBH] TGbh D4.0 Example Texts and Figures

Hi all,

As we discussed in the call today, to move forward, Graham volunteered to modify the example figures and text (thanks a lot Graham) for this submission.
Jay and Yan Li, as well as others, are also welcome to put any input.

Thanks!

BR,

Okan

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