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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Comment on 1907



 

Hi Yelin, Pooya,

 

Thank you for the discussion on this topic.

 

TGbe has defined a mechanism to uniquely identify each AP MLD that have an affiliated AP in the same multiple BSSID set (i.e., AP MLD ID = index of the BSSID) and for any other AP MLD (i.e., non-collocated), the AP MLD ID is >= 2^n (n=MaxBSSID Indicator). With that view in mind, when an AP affiliated with an AP MLD advertises another AP MLD which has AP MLD ID >= 2^n (n=MaxBSSID Indicator) the non-AP MLD can determine if the reported AP MLD is collocated or non-collocated. In addition, the Collocated bit in the reported AP (MLD) in the RNR IE also helps identify collocated or non-collocated-ness (this is useful for the case of co-hosted BSSID set or when the affiliated AP is standalone and of course it still applies to MBSSID set). Therefore, the necessary signaling is already provided by TGbe and will continue to apply in TGbn (i.e., no new work needed). In addition, the hierarchy defined by TGbe will continue to hold in TGbn – i.e., AP MLDs within a multiple BSSID or co-hosted BSSID set will be affiliated with different SMD MLDs (and are connected to different ESS/DS and advertise a different SSID).

 

Regards,
Abhi

 

From: Pooya Monajemi <00000ef0b9e0aff7-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2024 9:28 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Comment on 1907

 

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Many thanks for the response Yelin, 

I agree that there needs to be a method for identifying neighboring AP MLD's that are not co-located but are part of the same logical entity above (UFT in your contribution). We should be able to assign a  MAC address to this logical entity and announce it to achieve the identification problem. 

Also open to hearing other opinions.

 

Best

Pooya 

 

On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 12:00:25 PM EST, Yelin YOON <yl.yoon@xxxxxxx> wrote:

 

 

Hello Pooya.

 

To give a brief history on how we came up with the Collocated AP MLD Set, in roaming, we consider a case where the non-AP STA roams between the AP MLDs that are not co-located. Therefore, a non-AP STA should be able to identify the AP MLDs that are not co-located and provided by the serving AP MLD..

However, as I mentioned in my contribution (1907), there is no method to identify the AP MLDs that are not collocated.

While thinking of the method on the identification of the non-collocated AP MLDs, we also wanted to take the multiple BSSID set case into the consideration as well where the APs affiliated with different AP MLDs included in the same multiple BSSID set.

This is the reason that we created a co-located AP MLD set that groups the AP MLDs that are co-located and set an ID to overcome the identification limitation.  

On the other hand, we do not have a firm opinion on creating the co-located AP MLD set and we are open to roaming between AP MLDs individually.

 

If any of the other members have their thoughts on this, I would be welcomed to hear from you.

 

Best Regards,

Yelin Yoon 

 

From: Pooya Monajemi [mailto:pmonajemy@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2024 4:44 AM
To: stds-802-11-tgbn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; yl.yoon@xxxxxxx
Subject: Comment on 1907

 

Hello Yelin and thanks again for the contribution. 

On the question of why we need the definition of a co-located AP MLD set, you mentioned cases where two AP MLDs are co-located and STA is roaming from one to another. 

I believe today if two co-located APs are advertising the same SSID (~same ESS) they generally belong to the same AP MLD, do you see the case of same SSID on different but co-located AP MLDs today or in future?

 

Thanks

Pooya 


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