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[STDS-802-11-TGBN] FW: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] terminology discussion for multi-AP coordination 11-24/874



Dear all,

 

Just a reminder that if you have a preference for the terminology for APs participating in multi-AP operations. Please indicate them in table below. I would like to run a sp during the Hawaii meeting if possible.

 

Member

TXOP sharing based Multi-AP coordination

Unified terminology for multi-AP coordination in 11bn

Non-TXOP sharing based/general/other Multi-AP coordination

Comments

 

Sharing AP

Shared AP

 

 

 

 

Xiaofei

Initiating AP

Participating AP

Yes

Initiating AP

Participating AP

See 11-24/874

Ron

Initiating AP

Coordinating AP

Yes

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Xiaofei Clement Wang

Principal Engineer | InterDigital

T: (631) 622.4028

E: Xiaofei.wang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

From: Xiaofei Wang
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2024 1:38 PM
To: yang.zhijie@xxxxxxxxxx; STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] terminology discussion for multi-AP coordination 11-24/874

 

Thank you, Jay, for your questions.

 

Of course, many things need to be discussed and agreed by the group members, but here is some of my thoughts and I am open to discussions and input.

 

I assume that you are discussing the role of “initiating AP” and “participating AP” in the general multi-AP operations (Case 2 in 11-24/874). Some of the steps of multi-AP operations that have been discussed in the group, including one or more of the following steps:

  • Discovery
  • Coordination setup/negotiation
  • Coordination decision
  • Actual multi-AP transmissions

 

By “Initiating AP”, I assume that it will be the AP that initiates one or more of the steps of at least discovery and coordination setup/negotiation. The group can discuss whether coordination decision should take place at the “initiating AP” or it is based on a req/resp exchanges or other means.  

 

Regarding whether only one AP or all APs can be the “initiating AP”, I think the group should decide. For the multi-AP TXOP sharing case, I believe that all APs can be the “initiating AP”, and I do not see a reason not to follow the same rules for general multi-AP operations.

 

The basic assumption for the term “initiating AP”  is that it may be similar to the Multi-AP SP sharing case, it is the AP that initiates the coordinated multi-AP operations. I feel that we do not need too much details at this stage and those can be decided later.

 

 

 

Xiaofei Clement Wang

Principal Engineer | InterDigital

T: (631) 622.4028

E: Xiaofei.wang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

From: Jay Yang <yang.zhijie@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2024 9:54 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] terminology discussion for multi-AP coordination 11-24/874

 

Hi Xiaofei ,All,

 

Thanks for initiating this mail thread.

 

I'm not sure what's the meaning of " Initiating/Participating AP", do you mean a specific MAP frame is only transmitted by the initiating AP, and the Participating AP can't? 

Or the first AP that initializes a special MAP procedure is called Initiating AP, that's, any AP can be Initiating AP, and the corresponding responder is the Participating AP?  And then any AP can initialize any MAP procedure?

Besides a unified terminology in MAP scheme,  it will be helpful if anyone help to clarify what's your purpose, and what you are looking for.

 

 

 

Thanks

 

Best Regards

 

Jay Yang (杨志杰)

 

 

Original

From: 顾祥新(XiangxinGu) <Xiangxin .Gu @UNISOC.COM>

Date: 20240815 09:30

Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] terminology discussion for multi-AP coordination 11-24/874

Thank you Xiaofei for initiating the discussion.

Id like to use Initiating AP / Participating AP during coordination setup phase and TXSing AP / TXSed AP during the coordinated measurement / transmission TXOP .

 

BR,

 

Xiangxin Gu

Communication Standards Devision

 

 

From: Ron Porat <000009a0da80e877-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2024 7:11 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] terminology discussion for multi-AP coordination 11-24/874

 

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From: Xiaofei Wang <00001995ce968e76-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2024 10:40 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] terminology discussion for multi-AP coordination 11-24/874

 

Dear all,

 

I presented 11-24/874r0 during the last 11bn joint call discussing the terminology that we should use for multi-AP coordination operations for 11bn. Thank you all for your discussions and comments.

 

I am sending out this email trying to collect input on these terms. If you could reply to this email with your preferred terminologies, I can try to summarize them and continue the discussion based on the input. Please also share your thoughts why the choice is preferred under the comments’ column.

 

Thank you!

 

Member

TXOP sharing based Multi-AP coordination

Unified terminology for multi-AP coordination in 11bn

Non-TXOP sharing based/general/other Multi-AP coordination

Comments

 

Sharing AP

Shared AP

 

 

 

 

Xiaofei

Initiating AP

Participating AP

Yes

Initiating AP

Participating AP

See 11-24/874

Ron

Initiating AP

Coordinating AP

Yes

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Xiaofei Clement Wang

Principal Engineer | InterDigital

T: (631) 622.4028

E: Xiaofei .wang@InterDigital .com

 


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