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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Feedback on Fairness PDT: 11-25/479r3



Hi Sanket,

 

I will ask for the chair guidance here regarding whether we need to clarify every detail in a section before the corresponding PDT being motioned.

 

I think I am currently following same approach as others to make incremental progress on topics to meet timeline. This PDT document is capturing the group consensus on the motion text. There was a TBD in the motion because this part was not resolved. So, the PDT also has a TBD for that aspect.

 

 

Regards,

Dibakar

 

From: Sanket Kalamkar <sankal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2025 2:14 PM
To: Das, Dibakar <dibakar.das@xxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Feedback on Fairness PDT: 11-25/479r3

 

Hi Dibakar,

We have at least two weeks until the May F2F meeting, which can be used to address these issues. So, we need not rush into running a motion on a PDT that contains text which is ambiguous and imprecise.

 

Do you see a technical concern with the suggested text in my earlier e-mail?

 

Best,

Sanket

 


From: Das, Dibakar
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2025 12:26 PM
To: Sanket Kalamkar; STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Feedback on Fairness PDT: 11-25/479r3

 

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Hi Sanket,

 

I think we need to make some progress to meet the 11bn draft 1.0 timeline. As such given this text is capturing the motion that passed, we should try to follow what we have done for every other PDT: make progress on the parts that are agreed and work on resolving the details.

 

If the issue is really about not having a “TBD” we can follow what we have typically done for such issues: have a place-holder/imprecise text for now until the group finds the precise solution.  

 

Regards,

Dibakar

 

 

From: Sanket Kalamkar <sankal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2025 11:45 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Das, Dibakar <dibakar.das@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Feedback on Fairness PDT: 11-25/479r3

 

Hi Dibakar,

 

Thank you again for preparing the PDT on the fairness topic. I have a couple of technical concerns as follows:

The current PDT (11-25/479r3) states: "Within a TXOP in which a TXOP owner AP performs either Co-TDMA or TXS mode 2 procedure, the AP shall use at least a TBD portion of the obtained TXOP for data communication with its own associated STAs before sharing the TXOP with other STAs."

1.                       From a spec language point-of-view, the term "data communication" is ambiguous. So, I suggest the following revision: 


"Within a TXOP in which a TXOP owner AP performs either Co-TDMA or TXS mode 2 procedure, the AP shall use at least a TBD 
a portion of the obtained TXOP for at least one individually addressed frame exchange with its associated non-AP STAs data communication with its own associated STAs before sharing the obtained TXOP with other STAs."

2.                      Suggest not to introduce a new TBD. The above suggestion takes care of it as well. We can always add to the PDT if there is a need to add a specific value later.

 If you think we need more offline discussions, we can defer the motion to give us more time to revise the PDT.

 

Best,

Sanket


From: Das, Dibakar
Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2025 11:07 AM
To: 
STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] CR MAC Request

 

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Hi Alfred,

 

Please add the following (presented) CR doc to agenda for MAC queue for SP:

 

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-0479-01-00bn-cr-for-cid-1378.docx

 

Regards,

Dibakar


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