Hello Dorothy,
I'm sorry, but we have had purely editorial fixes rejected too, on the
same basis that we were not maintaining deprecated features of the spec.
There was no "not quite the same category" finessing. If the policy is
to leave deprecated features in but let them rot, then we have to accept
the consequences.
If we are now allowing editorial corrections, then a whole bunch of
things will have to be raised on D2.0.
(But it seems to me rather perverse to accept editorial corrections and
reject technical corrections!)
Thanks,
Mark
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Mark, Emily,
In looking at 1188, the change that is indicated is to correct an editing error.
It is not quite the same category as a technical correction to text.
Dorothy
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On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Qi, Emily H <emily.h.qi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Hello Mark,
As for CID 1518, you seemed to agree with the comment resolution, but wanted to make sure CID 1188 is rejected as well. The action on CID 1188 is recorded in the meeting minutes. I am sure Dorothy will take care of it. That said, I will still include CID 1518 in the group motion (Motion-EDITOR-B) for approval.
Following CIDs have been pulled out from the group motion and will be discussed in the IEEE meeting next week: 1588, 1086, 1389, 1433, and 1487.
Regards,
Emily
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Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 6:37 AM
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Subject: RE: REVmd update to EDITOR ad hoc comment spreadsheet
Hello Emily,
See my responses below:
1022: updated.
1162: updated.
1163, 1164, 1165, 1222: since they are overlapping with EDITOR2 comments. I will add a note to each of those comments: Note to Editor: there might be multiple instances.
1490: updated
1588: I think we may need more discussion on this one. I will pull it out.
1591: updated.
1086: I can pull out this one from the MOTION if you would like to have more discussion.
OK, thanks.
1115: added: at 700.53 change “an null data packet (NDP) announcement” to “an HT NDP announcement”.
changed “889.6” to “889.61”.
1280: SCs in 12.5.3.3 and 12.5.3.4.3 and 12.5.4.3 are “sequence control”. SC is also used for “MPDU Sequence Control field”. Mark H will work on cleaning up “Sequence Control (SC)” that was added by 11ah. However, those work items are out of the scope of this comment.
1389: Please see the discussion in 18/0658r4
OK. It just says "Disagree to change “when” to “if”." Why do you disagree?
If there's no good reason, I think the commenter's proposed change
should simply be accepted.
1433: This is the consensus from the April ad hoc meeting. If you disagree, I will pull out this comment from the group motion. We can have a separate motion on this.
For now, I just want a resolution that does not contain obviously
false statements like "U[n]derscores are used for ResultCode everywhere".
1487: This is the consensus from the telecom. If you disagree, I will pull out this comment from the group motion. We can have a separate motion on this.
That was not my understanding of what the consensus from the teleconf
was, assuming you mean the one on 2018-04-27. My understanding of the
consensus was that we should NOT have definitions for $PHY AP,
$PHY BSS, etc., unless there was something specific that meant the
definition was needed to resolve an ambiguity. In turn, there was
no ambiguity related to "DMG AP", so that definition was going to
be deleted, and the other Mark had a recollection there was some
ambiguity related to "DMG BSS" that required its definition (something
to do with whether a PBSS is a DMG BSS (even though the definition
does not mention PBSSes)) so was going to do some research and report
back to see if the continued inclusion of a "DMG BSS" definition was
warranted.
1518: This is the consensus from the telecom. If you disagree, I will pull out this comment from the group motion. We can have a separate motion on this.
That may have been the consensus, but the point is that if CID 1518 is
rejected, then CID 1188 must be too, for the same reason. Dorothy was
going to check the status of CID 1188 to make sure.
Thanks,
Mark
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From: Mark Rison [mailto:m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2018 7:08 AM
To: Qi, Emily H <emily.h.qi@xxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: REVmd update to EDITOR ad hoc comment spreadsheet
Thanks for these, Emily. I have the following comments on the EDITOR-A tab:
1022
I find a total of 6 places in the draft
1162
442.4 not 441.4. Also 1436.32, .54
1163
see other similar comment in EDITOR2-A
1164
see other similar comment in EDITOR2-A
1165
see other similar comment in EDITOR2-A
1222
see other similar comment in EDITOR2-A
1490
also 1536.16, 1537.33
1588
The " Move the text in the two paragraphs after Figure 9-84, to be duplicated in 11.3.5.3(k) and 11.3.5.5(k)." part of the accepted proposed change is not clear. Exactly what will 11.3.5 look like after the change?
1591
Also 916.18, 1428.2
I have the following comments on the EDITOR-B tab:
1086
The problem is that now if the spec says "MAC header" it's not clear whether that excludes "PV1 MAC header"
1115
Also 700.53. 889.6 should be 889.61
1280
All the references to "SC" in 12.5.3.3 and 12.5.3.4.3 and 12.5.4.3 need to go too
1389
The proposed resolution does not address the "when" v. "if" aspect of the comment. Why not accept the proposed change?
1433
The rejection reason "Uderscores are used for ResultCode everywhere." is broken. A counter-example is given in the comment: "AUTH FAILURE TIMEOUT"
1487
No, CID 204 said we do need a definition for <PHY> BSS and <PHY> AP, such as those provided for DMG BSS and DMG AP. So the proposed definition for HT AP needs to be added
1518
Then CID 1188 must be rejected too
Thanks,
Mark
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From: ***** 802.11 REVm - Revision Maintainance List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Qi, Emily H
Sent: 01 May 2018 00:14
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Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGM] REVmd update to EDITOR ad hoc comment spreadsheet
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Hello All
I have uploaded an updated REVmd EDITOR ad hoc comment spreadsheet:
Tab “Motion-EDITOR-A” includes proposed comment resolutions for “trivial” editor comments in the “EDITOR” ad hoc.
Tab “Motion-EDITOR-B” includes proposed comment resolutions for “non-trivial” editor comments in the “EDITOR” ad hoc. Those comments were discussed in the April ad hoc and teleconference.
Tab “Motion-EDITOR-A” and Tab “Motion-EDITOR-B” will be considered for MOTION at the Warsaw meeting.
Please review and let me know if you have any other suggestions.
Regards,
Emily Qi
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