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Re: [STDS-802-11] Bangkok 802 Wireless Interim

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  Hi Rob,

On 8/18/15, 8:17 AM, "*** IEEE stds-802-11 List *** on behalf of Rob Sun" <STDS-802-11@xxxxxxxx on behalf of Rob.Sun@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
[snip]

I know different country/company/individual has different tolerance with terrorism or loss its citizens/employees/families, it's just upon each individual or organization's discretion.

  It’s been quite a while since “an acceptable level of violence” was expressed as any kind
of official policy and that kind of cynicism really isn’t to be found anymore (thank God). I
don’t think anyone or country or (legitimate) organization has "tolerance with terrorism or
loss [of life]."

  It’s a matter of balance. Every human activity involves risk of some sort, even bathing in
a bathtub. But we decide to live our lives anyway. Every major city we could go to in this
world has some risk and some more than other— I’m pretty sure my risk of violent assault is
greater in San Francisco than it is in Bangkok. I just think the idea that the IEEE is a special
target and that risk increases at such a nerd fest is ludicrous.

  Yes, it’s up to each individual to be responsible for himself or herself. Know your surroundings,
don’t be reckless, don’t flash large wads of money, avoid rowdy crowds, have a good time, eat
well. That’s what I plan on doing in Bangkok.

  regards,

  Dan.


Thanks
Rob



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From: *** IEEE stds-802-11 List *** [mailto:STDS-802-11@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marc Emmelmann
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11] Bangkok 802 Wireless Interim

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I think Dan and Richard are right.

Until I see an official travel warning from the government, and given the current situation, Bangkok is as save as London or
any other "big city in the US".

Let's try to avoid to stampede and remember 2013:  we did not had such a discussion calling to cancel any meeting in the
US after April 15 that year.

Best,

Marc

On 18 Aug 2015, at 07:38, Richard Edgar <Richard.Edgar@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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I agree with Dan.  Until recently, London was much more at risk of bombs than many places but people this did not stop coming here.  Can anybody truly say going anywhere else is safer.
Adrian, my company has already put a flag up on this trip.  I would suggest that 802 gives people who do not want to travel to Bangkok the opportunity to pull out without penalty (it may be the case that if people pull out now there is no penalty but I have not checked the refund policy).
Richard
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On 18 Aug 2015, at 06:25, Daniel Harkins <dharkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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   I disagree. This supposed threat to an IEEE meeting is overstated. I don't see how a
technical conference would be considered a target. It would be an expensive change
and we'd probably end up in some horrible place like the Dallas airport Hilton again.
   Bangkok here we come!
   Dan.
On 8/17/15, 7:13 PM, "*** IEEE stds-802-11 List *** on behalf of Joonsuk Kim" <STDS-802-11@xxxxxxxx on behalf of joonsuk@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
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I seconded we may need to take this a bit more seriously. This IEEE meeting is for representatives of many companies worldwide, which can be an easy target for them, rather than random individual tourists. We may need to start looking at alternative approach since we have only one month ahead.
Regards,
Joonsuk
On Aug 17, 2015, at 6:32 PM, Jianhan Liu <Jianhan.Liu@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Hi Adrian,
  
Without the terrorist being caught, is it safe to IEEE meeting? IEEE meeting can be a good target for terrorists if they have political requirement.
  
Thanks,
Jianhan  
  
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Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 7:55 AM
Subject: [STDS-802-11] Bangkok 802 Wireless Interim
  
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Dear 802.11 participants,
  
The leadership are aware of this:
  
I don't anticipate that this will impact the 802 Wireless Interim.    If anything changes,
I will let you know as soon as it does.
  
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