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FWIW to be absolutely cler: I'm satisfied with Robert's explanation and that I had misunderstood his previous explanation.
Thanks Robert for the clarification!
Ben
From: Stacey, Robert <robert.stacey@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 2:53 PM To: STDS-802-11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <STDS-802-11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11] Suggested P802.11-2020/Cor1 change --- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Working Group Reflector ---
Hello All,
P802.11-2020/Cor1/D2.1 is available in the members area as well as redline documents against D2.0 and D1.0.
Regards, -Robert
From: Stacey, Robert <robert.stacey@xxxxxxxxx>
--- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Working Group Reflector --- Hello All,
Other than this public thread, I have not received any comments on the proposed direction. I plan to revise the Introduction as suggested below. I believe this adequately clarifies the error that was made and adequately describes the correction that fixes the error.
I have updated comment resolution is here: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/22/11-22-0648-04-0000-comments-on-p802-11-cor1-d1-0.xlsx (the resolution to CID 4 is updated for this change)
I will post a revision to the draft shortly.
-Robert
From: Stacey, Robert <robert.stacey@xxxxxxxxx>
--- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Working Group Reflector --- Hello Ben,
I’m not sure what you mean by “11ay inadvertently deviated from the base 802.11 standard”. That is exactly what all amendments are intended to do; modify and become part of the base standard.
The error here is that 11ay inadvertently used a value it should not have used - a value that had previously been allocated for use by an external standard. An error that became apparent only after publication and hence requiring a new project to correct it.
-Robert
From: Benjamin Rolfe <ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
--- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Working Group Reflector --- Jon, Thank you for the explanation and background. I appreciate Robert's work and his explanation. The explanation caused me to doubt what I thought I had understood. I had thought that 801.11-ay inadvertently deviated from the base 802.11 standard but the statement below suggests I was mistaken, suggesting that the inconsistency arose with an external specification which deviates from the 802.11 standard. Which is it? Thanks. Thanks alsoto Robert for his excellent work BTW.
Ben
From: Jon Rosdahl <jrosdahl@xxxxxxxx>
--- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Working Group Reflector --- Ben, The Corrigenda changes bit 6 to bit 11. The debate is how to describe that in the document so that it makes sense. The introductory paragraph is not part of the standard, but a description of how the change from 6 to 11 is displayed in the standard. The roll-in of TGba which occurs after TGay is part of the "current baseline". The Corrigenda has to reflect that reality. Hence on the very first page, it lists 802.11-2020, 802.11ax, 802.11ay, 802.11ba. So the description explains how the change from bit 6 to 11 (the error that was the target of the corrigenda) is depicted. Given the comments from the potential balloters, the update that Robert has made is reasonable and expected. Jon
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Jon Rosdahl Engineer, Senior Staff
On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 7:27 PM Benjamin Rolfe <ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 2:53 PM To: STDS-802-11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <STDS-802-11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11] Suggested P802.11-2020/Cor1 change --- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Working Group Reflector ---
Hello All,
P802.11-2020/Cor1/D2.1 is available in the members area as well as redline documents against D2.0 and D1.0.
Regards, -Robert
From: Stacey, Robert <robert.stacey@xxxxxxxxx>
--- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Working Group Reflector --- Hello All,
Other than this public thread, I have not received any comments on the proposed direction. I plan to revise the Introduction as suggested below. I believe this adequately clarifies the error that was made and adequately describes the correction that fixes the error.
I have updated comment resolution is here: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/22/11-22-0648-04-0000-comments-on-p802-11-cor1-d1-0.xlsx (the resolution to CID 4 is updated for this change)
I will post a revision to the draft shortly.
-Robert
From: Stacey, Robert <robert.stacey@xxxxxxxxx>
--- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Working Group Reflector --- Hello Ben,
I’m not sure what you mean by “11ay inadvertently deviated from the base 802.11 standard”. That is exactly what all amendments are intended to do; modify and become part of the base standard.
The error here is that 11ay inadvertently used a value it should not have used - a value that had previously been allocated for use by an external standard. An error that became apparent only after publication and hence requiring a new project to correct it.
-Robert
From: Benjamin Rolfe <ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
--- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Working Group Reflector --- Jon, Thank you for the explanation and background. I appreciate Robert's work and his explanation. The explanation caused me to doubt what I thought I had understood. I had thought that 801.11-ay inadvertently deviated from the base 802.11 standard but the statement below suggests I was mistaken, suggesting that the inconsistency arose with an external specification which deviates from the 802.11 standard. Which is it? Thanks. Thanks alsoto Robert for his excellent work BTW.
Ben
From: Jon Rosdahl <jrosdahl@xxxxxxxx>
--- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Working Group Reflector --- Ben, The Corrigenda changes bit 6 to bit 11. The debate is how to describe that in the document so that it makes sense. The introductory paragraph is not part of the standard, but a description of how the change from 6 to 11 is displayed in the standard. The roll-in of TGba which occurs after TGay is part of the "current baseline". The Corrigenda has to reflect that reality. Hence on the very first page, it lists 802.11-2020, 802.11ax, 802.11ay, 802.11ba. So the description explains how the change from bit 6 to 11 (the error that was the target of the corrigenda) is depicted. Given the comments from the potential balloters, the update that Robert has made is reasonable and expected. Jon
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Jon Rosdahl Engineer, Senior Staff
On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 7:27 PM Benjamin Rolfe <ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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