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Re: [STDS-802-16] [MMR-AH-UM] Please review harmonized usage model contribution author list



Kim and all,

It has been stated clearly in MMR SG official document (IEEE
802.16mmr-06/006) that MMR is intended to "enable mobile stations to
communicate with a base station through intermediate relay stations".
Therefore, removing the sentence Kim mentioned would make RS more like a
wireless switch. It seems to be out of the MMR scope. So I agree to keep
it.

Kaibin Zhang

-----Original Message-----
From: J Kim [mailto:macsbug@RESEARCH.ATT.COM] 
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 1:19 AM
To: STDS-802-16@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16] [MMR-AH-UM] Please review harmonized usage
model contribution author list

Please quote a direct reference to prohibiting MS-RS-MS traffic
forwarding from the PAR, or at least a reasonable phrase that you may
interpret so.
I don't believe "no mods to MS" implies so, since a unmodded MS cannot
tell if it's talking to RS or BS.

The tutorial, 80216mmr-06_006.pdf, does not contain such statement, nor
it is the final word on the scope. 


"J" Kim

-----Original Message-----
From: loa@nmi.iii.org.tw [mailto:loa@nmi.iii.org.tw] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:05 AM
To: Kim,Byoung-Jo J (J)
Cc: STDS-802-16@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [STDS-802-16] [MMR-AH-UM] Please review harmonized usage
model contribution author list

Kim,
I believe that this sentence defines the scope of MMR. If we remove it,
then
there is no difference between MMR and "pico BS + ad hoc routing
protocols".
The scope of MMR had been defined clearly in MMR SG document
80216mmr-06_006.pdf.

Ken
----------------------
Kanchei(Ken) Loa
Institute for Information Industry
Networks & Multimedia Institute - WiMAX Technology Center

-----Original Message-----
From: J Kim [mailto:macsbug@RESEARCH.ATT.COM] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:15 AM
To: STDS-802-16@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16] [MMR-AH-UM] Please review harmonized usage
model
contribution author list

Jerry and all.

I think the added sentence at the beginning of Section 6.3 (was 5.3) 

"In all of the usage models described in section 3, all data
communications occur between the MMR-BS and MSs through zero or more
RSs."

is unnecessary along the lines of the discussions in the attached mail.

At the current stage and especially for usage models, I see no reason to
limit all traffic back to MMR-BS.
I'm assumming I'm not the only one reading it to mean all user traffic
must come to BS?

I suggest removing it.

Bests. 

"J" Kim


________________________________

From: Sydir, Jerry [mailto:jerry.sydir@INTEL.COM] 
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 3:30 PM
To: STDS-802-16@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: [MMR-AH-UM] Please review harmonized usage model contribution
author list



Dear Ad Hoc participants,

 

In the latest revision of the harmonized Usage Model contribution, I
have added the list of the ad hoc participants as co-authors of the
document. I've included all those who expressed interest in the ad hoc
group, participated in the calls, or sent emails on the mailing list
expressing opinions on the contents. Please take a look at the list and
send me an email if you have participated and I have missed you, or if
you do not wish to have your name in the list. (Its probably sufficient
to reply to me directly to me).

 

The document can be found in the following location:
http://dot16.org/CSUpload//upload/temp_db/C80216j%2d06_UMAHtemp_r5.doc
<http://dot16.org/CSUpload/upload/temp_db/C80216j%2d06_UMAHtemp_r5.doc>
.

 

Best Regards,

Jerry Sydir