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Re: [RPRWG] FW: 802.17 interim meeting announcement



Mike,

Thanks for your timely response.
This makes everything perfectly clear.

DVJ

David V. James
3180 South Ct
Palo Alto, CA 94306
Home: +1.650.494.0926
      +1.650.856.9801
Cell: +1.650.954.6906
Fax:  +1.360.242.5508
Base: dvj@xxxxxxxxxxxx

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Takefman [mailto:tak@xxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:00 AM
>> To: David V James
>> Cc: STDS-802-17@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; paul.nikolich@xxxxxxx;
>> p.nikolich@xxxxxxxx; bob@xxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [RPRWG] FW: 802.17 interim meeting announcement
>>
>>
>> David,
>>
>> Traditionally dot groups do not provide audio conferencing
>> services at face to face meetings and I am not aware of
>> any requirement for phone access in IEEE P&P. Adding voice
>> access to all face to face meetings would place a burden
>> on the planning of meetings and on those participants
>> who do attend in person. Our past ability to do so at some
>> interim meetings in the was based on the capabilites of
>> those facilities.
>>
>> I for one do not have a speaker phone attachment for
>> my cell phone, nor the budget to pay for the airtime and
>> long distance charges.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> mike
>>
>> David V James wrote:
>> > Mike,
>> >
>> > I regret that my travel budget is limited,
>> > and I cannot thus attend this meeting.
>> >
>> > I'm surprized that a conference call cannot be arranged,
>> > since cell-phones with hands-free auto adapters make that
>> > possible in almost any location.
>> >
>> > I am willing to host a San Jose contingent, in my Palo Alto
>> > location, since my $20 bedroom speakerphone works OK.
>> > I'll even treat all participants to free tangerines,
>> > on a pick-your-own basis(:>).
>> >
>> > The absence of phone access seems somewhat contradictory
>> > to recent IEEE PROCOM meeting, which (I believe) emphasized
>> > the need for openness of the BRC (Bob Davis has details).
>> >
>> > DVJ
>> >
>> > David V. James
>> > 3180 South Ct
>> > Palo Alto, CA 94306
>> > Home: +1.650.494.0926
>> >       +1.650.856.9801
>> > Cell: +1.650.954.6906
>> > Fax:  +1.360.242.5508
>> > Base: dvj@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> >
>> >>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>From: owner-stds-802-17@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>[mailto:owner-stds-802-17@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mike Takefman
>> >>>Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:55 AM
>> >>>To: STDS-802-17@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>Subject: Re: [RPRWG] FW: 802.17 interim meeting announcement
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Dear RPRWGers,
>> >>>
>> >>>I regret that the room that we've been given access to
>> >>>does not have a speaker phone.
>> >>>
>> >>>I would appreciate an email from anyone who will be
>> >>>attending so we can make sure there is enough
>> >>>space.
>> >>>
>> >>>A reminder to people that the agenda for this meeting
>> >>>will be P802.17.
>> >>>
>> >>>The P802.17a sponsor ballot will not be complete before
>> >>>then, but we will handle any comments that do come up,
>> >>>not that I expect many.
>> >>>
>> >>>cheers,
>> >>>
>> >>>mike
>> >>>
>> >>>John Lemon wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>Mike,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Can you look into whether a speaker telephone is available in
>> >>>
>> >>>the room we'll be using?
>> >>>
>> >>>>jl
>> >>>>
>> >>>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>>From: David V James [mailto:dvj@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> >>>>Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 3:39 PM
>> >>>>To: John Lemon
>> >>>>Subject: RE: 802.17 interim meeting announcement
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>John,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I will be unable to attend the interem meeting physical location.
>> >>>>I will, however, be able to attend through the telephone, if those
>> >>>>facilities will be available.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>DVJ
>> >>>>
>> >>>>David V. James
>> >>>>3180 South Ct
>> >>>>Palo Alto, CA 94306
>> >>>>Home: +1.650.494.0926
>> >>>>      +1.650.856.9801
>> >>>>Cell: +1.650.954.6906
>> >>>>Fax:  +1.360.242.5508
>> >>>>Base: dvj@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>>From: owner-stds-802-17@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>>>>[mailto:owner-stds-802-17@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John Lemon
>> >>>>>>Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 2:13 PM
>> >>>>>>To: STDS-802-17@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>>>>Subject: 802.17 interim meeting announcement
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>802.17 interim meeting
>> >>>>>>Date: April 21-22
>> >>>>>>Location:
>> >>>>>>       Nortel Institute for Telecoms
>> >>>>>>       Room 7180, BA
>> >>>>>>       University of Toronto
>> >>>>>>The building is Bahen, BA, and the entrance is 40 St. George
>> >>>>>>Street. The Nortel room is on the 7th floor. Here is the URL for
>> >>>>>>the U of T map:
>> >>>>>><http://www.osm.utoronto.ca/map/>
>> >>>>>>A suggested nearby hotel, located at Bloor and St. George, is
>> >>>>>>the Quality Hotel:
>> >>>>>><http://www.toronto.the-hotels.com/quality-hotel-bloor-street.htm>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>More details will follow.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>--
>> >>>Michael Takefman              tak@xxxxxxxxx
>> >>>Distinguished Engineer,       Cisco Systems
>> >>>Chair IEEE 802.17 Stds WG
>> >>>3000 Innovation Dr, Ottawa, Canada, K2K 3E8
>> >>>voice: 613-254-3399       cell:613-220-6991
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Takefman              tak@xxxxxxxxx
>> Distinguished Engineer,       Cisco Systems
>> Chair IEEE 802.17 Stds WG
>> 3000 Innovation Dr, Ottawa, Canada, K2K 3E8
>> voice: 613-254-3399       cell:613-220-6991