Re: [802.19] Straw Poll

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Nancy,

There is no rule for straw polls. The reason in the ECSG Matt wanted 75% was that it was going to be followed up by an actual vote and he figured the actual vote needs 75% to pass.

We can discuss what to do with those that received approximately 66% or 50% on the call tomorrow. My opinion is that if something received around 50% we should defer it. The one that got 66% is a little less clear so I would like to discuss whether we do it now or defer.

Steve

From: Nancy Bravin [mailto:nbravin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 10:16 AM
To: STDS-802-19@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [802.19] Straw Poll

Hi David,
I seem to be the only one speaking here on this, so I guess I will continue with my thoughts?
In the ECSG we did many straw polls, and only addressed those that hit 75%...Sometimes to reach
that 75% we reworded a sentence as it may not have had the same meaning to each of the people.
because the language used, left things unclear?.
It has been my understanding, and I could be wrong, that 75% is the threshold that the EC thought
was necessary?Actually, when there was a 22 question straw poll on one day by email?not a single one

Reached 75%, so we crafted new questions?and finally got to the 75 percentage. The EC was not happy
and pounced on the ECSG saying that there must not be enough interest if that is the case.
Many responded that if the statement was clearer they would vote for it, others wanted
something different.
My basic point is that anyone can do contributions I assume, and upload them?but if this group
follows what we did with the ECWS group?we tried to get to that percentage as it would be a definite

Signal to the EC as to what was needed, important, and they should consider going forth with
whatever falls into those categories.

I am no expert in the rules, but am assuming that in the WS area, it operates the same????

Comments are welcome, respectfully, Nancy

From: David Cypher [mailto:david.cypher@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:54 PM
To: Nancy Bravin; STDS-802-19@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [802.19] Straw Poll

Nancy,
Why do you quote 75% and exceptions to rules? What rules?
This was a straw vote, not a formal motion. There is no requirement of 75%
A straw vote is used to "test the water".
Steve posted the results of the straw, which he based his conclusions on.
Work on item two can be done and not be an exception to the rules.

Use cases and scenarios must be done, but since these are numerous a subset may need to be selected to be workable.
Metrics / measurements must also be done in conjunction or what are your use cases or scenarios good for?
Given these two, the others should fall into place.

David Cypher
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At 06:29 PM 4/18/2009, Nancy Bravin wrote:

HI Steve,

I would recommend that we concentrate on the use case / scenarios which is the only one that passed over 75%, and that will provide an accurate
roadmap of what needs to be done. That may or may not include the other questions, or may provide
a better way of defining how to do it. We will in the end have more participation if we can get consensus over 75% in all areas we work on.
Otherwise we are always working with exceptions to the rules.

Just an opinion, Nancy

From: whitespace@xxxxxxxx [ mailto:whitespace@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shellhammer, Steve
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 2:22 PM
To: 802. 19 TAG (stds-802-19@xxxxxxxx); 802TVWS (WHITESPACE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Subject: RE: Straw Poll

All,

                I would like to thank everyone for their participation in the Straw Poll. Here are the results.

                As you can see the only task that received overwhelming support was Task 1 on Coexistence Scenarios. The other three tasks received mixed results.

                Clearly we should do Task 1. I would also say that we received 2/3 support for Task 2, so in my personal opinion we should consider doing Task 2 on coexistence metrics.

                The support for Tasks 3 and 4 are spit almost down the middle.   We can discuss these on Tuesdays conference call. However, given mixed support I am not sure it makes sense to consider these at this point. It might make sense to plan for Tasks 1 and 2 and after those are complete reconsider whether there is support for Tasks 3 and 4. Lets discuss on Tuesdays call.

                Also, and email comments are welcome.

Regards,
Steve

From: whitespace@xxxxxxxx [ mailto:whitespace@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shellhammer, Steve
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 5:20 PM
To: 802. 19 TAG (stds-802-19@xxxxxxxx); 802TVWS (WHITESPACE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Subject: Straw Poll

All,

                Here are the instructions for the straw poll on TVWS coexistence SG deliverables.

Straw Poll Instructions

1.        Save the attached spreadsheet and change the file name to your personal name in the form First_Last

2.        In Column B row 1 change the word Name to your personal name

3.        In Column B rows 2-5 enter either Yes, No or Abstain for each of the possible SG deliverables, indicating your support or lack of support for development of each deliverable

4.        Save the revised file and email it back to me by the end of the day on Friday April 17. There is no need to send the file to the entire email list

Regards,
Steve