Re: [802.21] Reminder - updated detailed proposals due Jan 9, 2005
Ben,
Harmonization at this stage is completely voluntary between (or amongst)
proposers. I would think that if two proposals have decided to merge/harmonize
then in principle there is meeting of minds. After that it is just a matter of
discussing things out.
However, if one believes that there is not enough time for the harmonization
discussions to complete in time for the Jan deadline, one may want to pursue
one's individual proposal with details until such time that there is complete
agreement on the modalities of the harmonization.
I may add that as discussed earlier, harmonization can be at a work item level
rather than a complete proposal.
-ajay
On 12/20/2004 9:18 PM, Benjamin Koh Tien-Ming wrote:
> Hi Ajay!
>
> Merry X'mas!
>
> As the holiday weekends draw closer, so does the submission deadline... :)
>
> I have query regarding:
> "
> So an update from each proposer is mandatory, either in terms of
> harmonization effort or an update in terms of more detail for the
> January meeting.
> "
>
> If only a shared/harmonised presentation/document is submitted in Jan,
> can individual presentations/documents be later submitted in Mar or May?
>
> An example would be supposing there is harmonisation effort going on, I
> doubt that it may be completed in time for the Jan meeting (and the 9th
> Jan submission deadline!). Suppose that X and Y proposals are in the
> process of being harmonised and the only 1 combined XY proposal is
> submitted in Jan. Along the way there may be some disagreements in
> certain parts of the proposal. In that case can X submit an additional
> individual presentation in Mar or May even though X did not do so in Jan?
>
> Regards,
> Ben
>
>
> Ajay Rajkumar wrote:
>
>>Ben,
>>
>>The whole assumption going into the Phased Approach was that until these phases
>>start there is active offline harmonization and "meeting of minds" taking place.
>>
>>So an update from each proposer is mandatory, either in terms of harmonization
>>effort or an update in terms of more detail for the January meeting.
>>
>>For March meeting, there is an explicit requirement for more detail including
>>explanatory text. One could not expect the group to vote on a proposal in phase
>>II without details in advance.
>>
>>regards,
>>-ajay
>>
>>On 12/13/2004 7:07 PM, Benjamin Koh Tien-Ming wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi!
>>>
>>>"
>>>3.1.10. Ajay: Encourage people to harmonize their proposals offline and
>>>come back in Jan with more details. A
>>>"
>>>I somehow missed that...
>>>
>>>However, is it mandatory to have a presentation for Jan (if we do intend
>>>to submit something for Phase I & II)? My feeling is that presentations
>>>in Jan would be more voluntary in nature in order to garner feedback.
>>>Correct me if the holiday mood is muddling my perceptions again! ;)
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Ben
>>>
>>>
>>>Ajay Rajkumar wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ben,
>>>>
>>>>I agree what holidays, if you are still responding/reading this email!
>>>>
>>>>Refer to 3.1.10
>>>>
>>>>This was reiteration of what was stated during the meeting.
>>>>
>>>>-ajay
>>>>
>>>>On 12/12/2004 9:09 PM, Benjamin Koh Tien-Ming wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>>Is this update mandatory for all proposers that intend to submit a final
>>>>>proposal in May?
>>>>>As per the straw poll in the San Antonio meeting,
>>>>>
>>>>>"
>>>>>3.1.6. How many participants are in favor of Option #3: Evaluation
>>>>>guideline: Jan 2005; Phase I: Mar 2005; Phase II, May 2005. (For: 25;
>>>>>Against: 0 Abstain: 3)
>>>>>"
>>>>>
>>>>>So may I ask what is the purpose of the updated proposals in light of
>>>>>the Phase I in March and Phase II in May?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Ben
>>>>>
>>>>>Happy Holidays(?) to all reading this... :)
>>>>>
>>>>>Ajay Rajkumar wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As discussed and decided during the San Antonio meeting, this is just a reminder
>>>>>>that the updated proposals from the proposers who had originally submitted
>>>>>>proposals are due by January 9, 2005 (midnight EDT).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>These updated proposals are for further consideration and discussion by the group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Wishing you all Season's Greetings and Happy Holidays.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>-ajay
>>>>>>Chair, IEEE 802.21 WG
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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