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Jonathan, I don't think you can put the paper on the web site due to copy right issues. I think it would be better for people to get copies for themselves. Regards, David -----Original Message----- From: owner-stds-802-3-10gmmf@IEEE.ORG [mailto:owner-stds-802-3-10gmmf@IEEE.ORG]On Behalf Of Jonathan King Sent: 01 October 2004 01:52 To: STDS-802-3-10GMMF@listserv.ieee.org Subject: [10GMMF] Next task 2 meet - paper on Modal Noise on Aerial fibres - plus an experiment proposal Dear all good to see many of you in Ottawa at the interim meeting Since many are still traveling home, I propose that the next task 2 (time varying meeting) should take place on wednesday 13th Oct 9.30am - is that soon enough? please let me know your preferences. (If you feel an earlier meet up is required then we could meet on wednesday 6th Oct 9.30am - let me know) David Cunningham passed on a paper to me at the September interim showing some dynamic measurements on modal noise for aerial fibres, which is relevant to task 2 activities. I'll asked Piers to upload it to the ieee site for reference; alternatively the reference is 'Modal-Noise Characteristics in Aerial Optical Cables Subjected to Vibration', Hiromichi Shinohara, JLT, Vol LT-1,No-4, Dec 1983, pp535-541. Anyone want to volunteer to dig into it and summarize ? I have a proposal for making measurements of impulse response change due to mechanical movement in a quasi-static manner on some real fibres in the lab: The process would be: set up an impulse response measurement test along the lines of the 'standard link', with a 3ply figure of 8 loop before the main fibre; move one side of the coil (as in TIA/EIA-455-203 fibre shaker) stepping through a reasonable amplitude of motion, and record the impulse response at each step. It would give a picture of measured IPR evolution vs perturbation; I also propose that the power change between temporal modes vs fibre movement for a few test fibres is generalized to help build a model of IPR change vs movement, which in turn can be used to build a model of degree of IPR vs frequency (using the GR-63-CORE vibration mask to relate frequency and amplitude of movement. Comments and advice invited best wishes Jonathan tel: 1 408 524 5110 e-mail: jking@bigbearnetworks.com fax: 1 408 739 0568 Jonathan King Director, Optical Systems BigBear Networks 345 Potrero Avenue Sunnyvale, CA 94085 -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan King Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 4:30 PM To: STDS-802-3-10GMMF@listserv.ieee.org Subject: [10GMMF] Participant names and commenst for Task 2 (time variation) overview slides for September Interim Dear all last call for comments and amendments to the task 2 slide set for Ottawa interim......its at: http://ieee802.org/3/aq/public/upload/index.html file name is Task 2 update: Time variation and modal noise study (22 Sept 04 rev 2, uploaded 23 Sept 04) 175K If you'd like your name to be added or deleted please let me know ASAP the current list of participants (ie those named themselves at >2 calls !) Robert Coenen, David Cunningham , John Dalessasse, Piers Dawe, Jens Fiedler, Ali Ghiasi, Pete Hallemeier, Jesper Hanberg, John Jaeger, Jonathan King, Paul Kolesar, Brent Lock, Tremant Maio, Petar Pepeljugoski, Petre Popescu, Andre Van Schyndel, Gary Schaulov, Yu Sun , Norm Swanson, Lars Thon hope to see you in Ottawa best wishes Jonathan tel: 1 408 524 5110 e-mail: jking@bigbearnetworks.com fax: 1 408 739 0568 Jonathan King Director, Optical Systems BigBear Networks 345 Potrero Avenue Sunnyvale, CA 94085