Re: [RE] Monday RE discussion announcement
Bob,
I'm a bit confused. My assumption (from 802.17 experience)
is that an adhoc is just that: an adhoc group of people meeting
for whatever purpose they desire. In that environment, there
was no formal requirement to obtain permissions.
From what I gather, 802.3 has a more formal definition of "adhoc".
Both appear to be consistent with m-w.com:
adhoc : for the particular end or case at hand without
consideration of wider application
To avoid future abuses of the 802.3 specific definition, can you
provide a URL to rules/procedures that describe the use of "adhoc"
within 802.3?
Any preferences on the following wording alternatives? I would
like to include the term RE, as that is the subject of the meeting,
without implying the meeting is RE sanctioned.
informal RE meeting
RE rendezvous
nonbinding RE meeting
nonbinding RE get-together
RE discussion meeting
RE get-together
Before I send the correcting meeting announcement, I would
like to have advice on which wording is "safe". If these
appear to have problems, alternatives would be appreciated.
Appreciation in advance,
DVJ
David V. James
3180 South Ct
Palo Alto, CA 94306
Home: +1.650.494.0926
+1.650.856.9801
Cell: +1.650.954.6906
Fax: +1.360.242.5508
Base: dvj@alum.mit.edu
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-stds-802-3-re@IEEE.ORG
>> [mailto:owner-stds-802-3-re@IEEE.ORG]On Behalf Of Grow, Bob
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:44 PM
>> To: STDS-802-3-RE@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>> Subject: Re: [RE] Monday RE adhoc meeting announcement
>>
>>
>> Colleagues:
>>
>> It is not appropriate to call this meeting an RE adhoc. It has no
>> status as an authorized 802.3 activity. IEEE 802.3 rules do allow a
>> Chair to call a meeting with 30 day notice. This activity does not meet
>> these requirements either in notice period or the party calling the
>> meeting. Ad hocs are chartered by the SG or its officers.
>>
>> We do encourage people to generate concensus outside 802.3 meetings, but
>> DO NOT represent this as an RESG ad hoc meeting.
>>
>> Bob Grow
>> Chair, IEEE 802.3
>> bob.grow@ieee.org
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-stds-802-3-re@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-3-re@ieee.org]
>> On Behalf Of David V James
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:10 PM
>> To: STDS-802-3-RE@listserv.ieee.org
>> Subject: [RE] Monday RE adhoc meeting announcement
>>
>> All,
>>
>> Tom Dineen has proposed the following agenda for a between
>> meeting adhoc, which I have volunteered to host:
>>
>> Monday, 2005Feb28
>> 802.3 RE Study Group adhoc meeting
>> 3180 South Court, Palo Alto, CA
>>
>> From my perspective, the intent is to help focus between
>> meeting activities, but not to make decisions.
>>
>> By working on details between meetings, (hopefully)
>> the valuable meeting time can be used more efficiently.
>>
>> At Tom's request, I will be hosting the meeting at my
>> residence, which is easy to reserve on short notice.
>> The date is:
>>
>> The meeting schedule is as follows:
>> 12:30 - 13:00 PST Hamburgers for the attendees
>> 13:00 - 17:00 PST Meeting discussions
>>
>> Please contact me (by Friday) if you wish to have
>> teleconferencing facilities, which I will then arrange
>> call-in facilities based on the number RSVPs.
>>
>> A door prize will be given to one of those attending,
>> who can also answer the riddle of:
>> 1) Which of "South" or "Court" can be abbreviated?
>> 2) Why?
>>
>> DVJ
>>
>> David V. James
>> 3180 South Ct
>> Palo Alto, CA 94306
>> Home: +1.650.494.0926
>> +1.650.856.9801
>> Cell: +1.650.954.6906
>> Fax: +1.360.242.5508
>> Base: dvj@alum.mit.edu
>>
>>
>>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Thomas Dineen [mailto:tdineen@ix.netcom.com]
>> >> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 4:30 PM
>> >> To: Thomas Dineen
>> >> Cc: Michael D. Johas Teener; David James; Tom Mathey, Gail McCoy;
>> George
>> >> Claseman
>> >> Subject: Draft Agenda For Meeting
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Gentlemen:
>> >>
>> >> Please note this is just a draft and not met to be in any way
>> >> exclusionary. Feel free to suggest additional items.
>> >>
>> >> Lets consider starting the meeting at 1:00 PM,
>> >> working through early evening, and then adjourning
>> >> to Fish Market for Beer and Dinner?
>> >>
>> >> Also feel free to expand the email scope of invitees.
>> >>
>> >> 1) Review Of Draft Presentations
>> >> - Subscription Protocol
>> >> - Time Distribution Protocol
>> >> - Queuing Protocol
>> >> -Others?
>> >>
>> >> 2) Review Of Terminology
>> >> - Presentations?
>> >> - Issues?
>> >>
>> >> 3) Review Of Architecture Proposals
>> >> - Presentations? Anyone?
>> >> - Discussion Of Architectural Concepts from any and all
>> attendees.
>> >> - I will attempt to capture the various concepts in a
>> presentation
>> >> of the various competing Ideas.
>> >>
>> >> 4) Discussion of the 802.3 versus 802.1 work split.
>> >>
>> >> 5) Other Issues?
>> >>
>> >> Thomas Dineen
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>